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FA Kart and Top Kart Comparison

Started by Myles Rowe Top Kart #6, November 07, 2014, 07:15:40 PM

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Myles Rowe Top Kart #6

So basically what most of you all are saying is that OTK is just easier to steer do to more castor and there is nothing else much different?
Sincerely,

Myles Rowe

Tr!st@n

The small otk brake is the most awesome brake ive ever driven.
FA Kart - IAME X30 Senior

Marco Dakic

99% says completly different, or you try to unbuild the brake, then try it to build it up again you will get crazy :D
3D Modeling :D

Marco Dakic

Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
3D Modeling :D

fmaisonnave

Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 10, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
World Champ KF 1-2-3 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-championship-standings.html
World Champ KF-J 1-2-3-4-5 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-junior-championship-standings.html
No doubts, OTK the best

Lachlan Hall

Quote from: fmaisonnave on November 10, 2014, 09:13:40 PM
Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 10, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
World Champ KF 1-2-3 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-championship-standings.html
World Champ KF-J 1-2-3-4-5 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-junior-championship-standings.html
No doubts, OTK the best

Do you not understand?
It's not only the fucking chassis that wins.
It's the driver engine and luck.

fmaisonnave

November 10, 2014, 10:36:37 PM #21 Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 11:03:36 PM by fmaisonnave
Quote from: Lachlan Hall on November 10, 2014, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: fmaisonnave on November 10, 2014, 09:13:40 PM
Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 10, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
World Champ KF 1-2-3 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-championship-standings.html
World Champ KF-J 1-2-3-4-5 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-junior-championship-standings.html
No doubts, OTK the best

Do you not understand?
It's not only the fucking chassis that wins.
It's the driver engine and luck.
Well buy a OTK it have good luck and you will have good engines too
Edit: This is a Joke haha

Marco Dakic

November 11, 2014, 01:14:02 AM #22 Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 01:19:40 AM by Marco Dakic
Quote from: fmaisonnave on November 10, 2014, 09:13:40 PM
Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 10, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
World Champ KF 1-2-3 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-championship-standings.html
World Champ KF-J 1-2-3-4-5 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-junior-championship-standings.html
No doubts, OTK the best

Ok then i Explain you
We will do a bit Math, and see whats the best Chassis !

.... KF - 34 Drivers (OTK 22 Drivers, Zanardi 4 Drivers, CRG 2 Drivers, ART 2 Drivers, birel 2 Drivers, 1 Top Kart Drivers,Praga 1 Drivers
For Example (Birel P1 P3 P9 = 1+3+9= 13     13/3 drivers = 4,3 Quote) as less as possible will win
OTK Position - 1 2 3 6 7 10 13 14 15 16 19 20 21 22 24 25 27 28 30 31 32 34 = 17,5
Zanardi Position - 4 5 9 11 = 7,25
CRG Position - 8 26 = 17
ART Position - 18 33 = 25,5
Birel Position - 17 29 = 23
Top Position - 12 = 12
Praga Position - 23 = 23

So we see OTK have 22 Chances to win a get good points but the SUPER BOMB UNBEATABLE chassis still also on the last places
The Best Chassis is
1. Zanardi - 7,25 (3/4 Drivers was in Top Ten its 75%, the 4 Drivers was P11)
2. Top Kart (oh 1 Driver still take better Quote then 22 OTK Drivers)
3. CRG
4. OTK
5 Birel/Praga
6. ART


So OTK is REALLY ONLY a TREND, you can win near to all Chassis, if you setup it right. We Allready bought Tony Karts and Tested in all Race Situations Race Dry FullGrip LowGrip against our Material its not a big diffence +-0,1 always.

The Best Chassis on the Market is that Chassis in them you Feel Perfect !!!
3D Modeling :D

fmaisonnave

Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 11, 2014, 01:14:02 AM
Quote from: fmaisonnave on November 10, 2014, 09:13:40 PM
Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 10, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 10, 2014, 07:54:18 PM
Over all at the national level OTK is the superior kart not only because it is a softer chassis (from what ive heard from drives who race them) but also because of the wide variety of teams that provide support for the OTK brand. Also as i believe John said very few people win on Top karts while with OTK is it not uncommon to find at least one OTK kart in the top five in  almost every class on the national level that is.

and OTK is at the last 10 Places in all races also :D
World Champ KF 1-2-3 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-championship-standings.html
World Champ KF-J 1-2-3-4-5 OTK
http://www.cikfia.com/competitions/cik-standing/2014/2014-cik-fia-world-kf-junior-championship-standings.html
No doubts, OTK the best

Ok then i Explain you
We will do a bit Math, and see whats the best Chassis !

.... KF - 34 Drivers (OTK 22 Drivers, Zanardi 4 Drivers, CRG 2 Drivers, ART 2 Drivers, birel 2 Drivers, 1 Top Kart Drivers,Praga 1 Drivers
For Example (Birel P1 P3 P9 = 1+3+9= 13     13/3 drivers = 4,3 Quote) as less as possible will win
OTK Position - 1 2 3 6 7 10 13 14 15 16 19 20 21 22 24 25 27 28 30 31 32 34 = 17,5
Zanardi Position - 4 5 9 11 = 7,25
CRG Position - 8 26 = 17
ART Position - 18 33 = 25,5
Birel Position - 17 29 = 23
Top Position - 12 = 12
Praga Position - 23 = 23

So we see OTK have 22 Chances to win a get good points but the SUPER BOMB UNBEATABLE chassis still also on the last places
The Best Chassis is
1. Zanardi - 7,25 (3/4 Drivers was in Top Ten its 75%, the 4 Drivers was P11)
2. Top Kart (oh 1 Driver still take better Quote then 22 OTK Drivers)
3. CRG
4. OTK
5 Birel/Praga
6. ART


So OTK is REALLY ONLY a TREND, you can win near to all Chassis, if you setup it right. We Allready bought Tony Karts and Tested in all Race Situations Race Dry FullGrip LowGrip against our Material its not a big diffence +-0,1 always.

The Best Chassis on the Market is that Chassis in them you Feel Perfect !!!
Great Review, but the OTK will always have bad average if there are 22 OTK the minimum average will be 11, if OTK would be like Zanardi with only 4 super pro drivers or only race with OTK RFM and the factories team like Kosmic,Tony and FA, Will have a Great Average like Zanardi.
But the greatest kart is in which one you go faster, and you feel confident, as you said.

Marco Dakic

November 11, 2014, 03:03:08 AM #24 Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 03:05:49 AM by Marco Dakic
Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 11, 2014, 01:41:04 AM
Marco you did all your testing on the European market, this is America our tracks are lower grip and so the OTK usually prevails as it is a slightly softer chassis and has other differences. Also it has more teams that support it. While the Top kart in Europe might be a respectable fast chassis here it is not a chassis many fast drivers choose. and while I agree any chassis can win the OTK v. Top Kart hands down OTK

No, we Testet with Sabrina Formal in the US, and the Flandria was 0.3 Faster then the Tony in the US Market.
But it is how it is (you must understand the whole thing)
OTK in US also becomes the Trend 2012-2014, it was the whole World, but the OTK time is finish, the Production Problems are to much, the give out 4/10 Tubes are bent by the Factory.

Some guys bought new chassis, suddenly they was 0.5 Slower then before with the older chassis.


Thats why i can say ... OTK is a Trend nothing more ;)

fmaisonnave the Average is correct if OTK would be 1-22 Place they would easy win, but you must always see the Whole, if a Chassis is P1 2 3 but at Same time 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 ... its not a super chassis :D if i would give the winner a Flandria with the Same engine what he use, and with his driving skills and Team Skills, he would win too
3D Modeling :D

Marco Dakic

For sure, but i have sooooo much Contacts in the US, but for the end without Discussing the next 5 Month.

There is not a big difference its all about the driver :D
3D Modeling :D

Myles Rowe Top Kart #6

Thanks guys for all your help, I think since I don't have a lot of money I am probably going to stick with the Top Kart unless I get sponsored. If I do get sponsored I think I am going to get and FA Kart and join J3 Competition for 2015. Thanks again.
Sincerely,

Myles Rowe

Marco Dakic

Quote from: DRkarter97 on November 11, 2014, 04:54:30 PM
Quote from: Marco Dakic on November 11, 2014, 12:28:02 PM
For sure, but i have sooooo much Contacts in the US, but for the end without Discussing the next 5 Month.

There is not a big difference its all about the driver :D

I understand you want to end this arguement but honestly get off your high horse you do not live hear and you do not know me so how you can be so sure you have more contacts I have no idea.

No i didnt say i have more, i said i have mich, and i have the right persons about their knowledge and experience :)

The Rest i dont care, i know that in my Region our Material works to the best :)
3D Modeling :D

JesusRB

TupaKart is the best!
D.E.P  Jules Bianchi

JesusRB

TupaKart is the best!
D.E.P  Jules Bianchi