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Title: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 09:10:21 PM
i must say goodbye because my PC isnt fast enough for this incredible game  :'(

i think of good online races and good times but for me its impossible to drive like this.....even when i drive alone its stuttering all the time....when i can bought new hardware in the future then i come back....

Wish all of you the best and hopefully see you in few months  :(

Greetings, GhostriderPL

@ Piboso : Write another minimum requierements at your homepage because they are not real  :(
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: laraarsa on April 16, 2012, 09:23:51 PM
Sad to hear a mamber is leaving  :'( Hope to see you back soon!
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: oppolo on April 16, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
why you should go away? you gave me just this afternoon good informations about air choke. have you tried "game booster"?
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: PiBoSo on April 16, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 09:10:21 PM
i must say goodbye because my PC isnt fast enough for this incredible game  :'(

i think of good online races and good times but for me its impossible to drive like this.....even when i drive alone its stuttering all the time....when i can bought new hardware in the future then i come back....

Wish all of you the best and hopefully see you in few months  :(

Greetings, GhostriderPL

@ Piboso : Write another minimum requierements at your homepage because they are not real  :(

Could you please post the specifications of your PC?
Does it make any difference to disable the effects in graphics settings?
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Capeta on April 16, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
yes i am pretty sure we can help u post ure pc spec
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
have everything on LOW and its horrible because of shattering (right word?)

PC: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
      Elitegroup ECS nForce2 Board
      ATi Radeon X850 Pro 256MB
      2.0GB RAM

When some informations more needed then say it....But i think thats to slow because i do everything i can but everytime the same problems...... :'(

Open a session and its not SOOOOO Bad (means that i can drive a whole lap but 10 laps without any problems are not realizeable)...go to the pits and return to driving...HORRIBLE....another guy comes to drive....HORRIBLE......offline the same......I dont want much QUALITY but NORMAL driving without shattering.....because i got angry when i drive and wait for a turn with this and landing in the grass or the pc restarts himself......and i dont have much time for angryness because i work and in this year i drive in KZ1 and i wanted to relax while driving with this great game and drive with others on a high level...

Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: PiBoSo on April 16, 2012, 11:20:58 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
have everything on LOW and its horrible because of shattering (right word?)

PC: AMD Athlon XP 2800+
      Elitegroup ECS nForce2 Board
      ATi Radeon X850 Pro 256MB
      2.0GB RAM

When some informations more needed then say it....But i think thats to slow because i do everything i can but everytime the same problems...... :'(


Greetings, GhostriderPL

Thank you.
KRP will be optimized as much as possible in the future releases, so hopefully you'll be able to run it smoothly.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 11:35:08 PM
Processor: 2 GHz
RAM: 1 GB
Video Card: 256 MB OpenGL 1.2.1-compliant
DirectX Version: DirectX 8.1 or newer libraries

With this things it should be good...i have more than this and its impossible to drive...even offline.....dont know much about this things and i sit here for a whole day to install the whole system because i thought it would help.......i am not a fan of these war of hardware because not everybody have so much money to buy every 6 months new hardware....we wanna have fun...and when i see that everything goes only on quality then its not good in my opinion....even poor people wanna have fun and dont look after quality......thats like i buy a ferrari which has 150hp but IT LOOKS GREAT...know what i mean? Good that in real life my eyes and my brain are the only needed things which are important  ;)


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on April 16, 2012, 11:37:27 PM
Your system is really quite slow. If you were able to run KRP before, there might be problem though.

I had a similar setup some years ago. A problem might be that Athlon XP is quite much of a heater. After some years of use cooling grease might be not optimal anymore. This might be a reason for sudden system resets.
You could try playing KRP, and when the system reboots hit Del and enter BIOS. There is a hardware monitor, where you can check CPU temp. If it is high, open your system, clean it, remoce CPU cooler and remove old cooling grease. (you can use some alcohol (aceton) and a tissue). Then buy new thermal grease and apply to CPU.

However, it really is time for a new rig and I'm sure you will be amazed how fast dual and quadcore can be ;)
BTW Athlon XP was introduced in 2001, that is more than one decade ago! This is very, very, very, unbelievably, insanely, extremely long for PCs! So please do not blame PiBoSo for this. There is always a trade-off between state of the art graphics and physics and performence. And your system really is outdated!
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 16, 2012, 11:55:24 PM
Temps are not the problem because i have a cool tower......BUT......i have 2.0Ghz and on the website this is enough to play on low graphics......but i understand that my pc is old.....i hit the white flag.....it hurts that i cant play but its my fault........i dont give Any blame to Piboso because he makes a great work and helps where he can....but it hurts a little that poor peole are not able to drive because there are so many fast people out there which cannot show they´re talent because of money....I hope you dont understand me wrong  ;) but this is reality......In GAMES and in REAL life......in real life i had much luck because in the 90´s i drive in upper classes and today i have a Name because people know me for many years as a fast driver......sorry for the offtopic because this had nothing to do with the game  ;) :-X


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Capeta on April 17, 2012, 02:08:00 AM
I think the fault goes to you're graphic chipset if you 'll have 512 it 'll be ok even with 2ghz.
So you can try gamebooster it's free and maybe u'll become happy but like piboso said it 'll optimise it but maybe you' ll have buy a new pc since the release :)
Aniway if u can afford a good pc u 'll be very happy there's so much good games on it:)
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 09:59:41 AM
I can get a ASUS M2V Board with a 3GHz Processor and 2GB DDR2 RAM and a GeForce 8500GT 512MB from a friend for not much money....

Would this work or is this even too slow?

And thanks for all your help  :)

Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on April 18, 2012, 10:18:12 AM
Which processor?
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 10:21:51 AM
AMD Athlon 64 and sorry my fault.....he has 2.6GHz not 3
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Eslotes on April 18, 2012, 10:46:17 AM
GhostriderPl buy a good graphic card something about in the 100-130 euros
then its posible to run it.
Something with 1 GB
this one is very good.
GeForce GTX 550 TI 1GB GDDR5
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: oppolo on April 18, 2012, 10:49:28 AM
i play well KRP in offline with no shadows with P4 3000, 1 Gb and Geforce9400GT 1 gb, buy at least a video card with 1 gb ram
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 10:53:50 AM
Then the GeForce 8500GT wiht 512MB! is EVEN too slow?  i DONT HAVE MONEY to buy NEW things....i was happy that i can get this from a friend....but when even THIS is too slow then i dont know if this makes sense.....i DONT wanna have the best quality....i can drive with 1024x768 resolution with low details.....only thing what i want is NORMAL driving...

And this isnt possible with this?  :(

For this 1GB Graphics i work here a whole week!
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Eslotes on April 18, 2012, 10:57:18 AM
You can try it.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: oppolo on April 18, 2012, 11:03:21 AM
you could try somthing on ebay, this is only one i found now http://tinyurl.com/c9vdyss
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 11:15:03 AM
thanks for searching..

But is it impossible to play this game with a 512MB graphicscard?? cant believe it  :(


another problem is that with this card i have to buy another motherboard and ram.....

fucking pc´s!   i wanna play A GAME and have to buy a NEW Pc.....thats without sense.....ill give it a try with this what i got....and when it dont works than i quit with this because there is a real life.....

But thanks for your help.....so many problems for having a little bit fun  :-\

Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nathan Dunnett on April 18, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
A 512 mb card is definitely enough, but in 2-3 years you will have the same problem. Save up a bit of money, do some shopping around and do an upgrade, you won't regret it and it will probably last you another 7 years if you pick the right gear. I know that I could build myself a full PC (minus monitor/speakers/keyboard) more than good enough to comfortably play games like KRP, iRacing, rFactor 2, etc. for less than $1000 AUD, which roughly equals 790 euros. Don't give up on it, save up and build a new PC. It doesn't have to be incredibly expensive with all the latest and greatest stuff to do what you want.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on April 18, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
It definitely could work with the new setup. Athlon 64 is faster than Athlon XP (if it is a Dual core (Athlon 64 X2) then it is a lot faster). You do not need 1GB of VRAM, it's just good to look for such things when buying a new card.

Can't you simply test KRP on your freinds setup? Actually a 8500gt can run Call of Duty 4 with low-medium settings from what I remember (system I know of was a Intel Dual Core with PCIe though). Not sure about OpenGL Perfomrence, but I think it should work.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
I can only test it here because he gave my the motherboard and the graphics card to test it..

I have now vacation (right word?) means some free time and i dont want to sit here and make the pc when it makes no sense....

I thought that this setup would be enough to drive normally on low settings....i was happy to get this...and now people say that i must buy even better things to drive.....i drive only KRP and dont have much time to sit and
drive.....and you say 130 euros....here it is 520zl and thats VERY MUCH money.....For this money i get here a new set of tires!  ;)


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: oppolo on April 18, 2012, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
now people say that i must buy even better things to drive....
not exactly, I told you my spec to be able to play KRP offline, you try the pc of your friend and then, if KRP doesn't still work well, you could try a cheap (20-30 eu) video card with 1 giga ram
ciao
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on April 18, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
Lol having money always depends on what the thing is worth to you, obviously ;)

Give it a try!
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: oppolo on April 18, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Nitrox on April 18, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
Lol having money always depends on what the thing is worth to you, obviously ;)

Give it a try!

sure. a very good pc for running smouth KRP is a lot cheaper than a real kart  :D
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: NOP on April 18, 2012, 02:37:21 PM
I'm using GT 240 and this allows me to run on medium settings. This is quite weak card. But it will cost around 170zl. You should look for 512MB DDR5 version. There is no point in having 1GB card if it can't be addressed fast enought to use it. But you may have to change power supply for stronger one (especially if your PC is old).
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: PiBoSo on April 18, 2012, 03:17:13 PM
There is no need for a 1GB graphics card: 512MB are enough.
With an Nvidia GT 240 it should be possible to use KRP at more than medium settings.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: NOP on April 18, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
Well to be precise i can run it on better settings but i want to avoid any slowdowns. Still it seems that there are slight frame rate drops when driving with many karts on track (or maybe this is connected to server slowdown when someone have bad ping).

And piboso i don't know if you are interested but there is youtube weekly show called "This Week Inside Sim Racing" (they get about 10k hits). For next couple weeks they are reviewing unfinished games. And it seems they will mention games like rfactor 2 beta, CARS and (which baffles me completely) KartSim. I don't know how it works but it seems that (maybe) developers contact them so they can mention game in their show.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 04:32:50 PM
I can only say that i dont look at the quality because when i drive i dont look on the grass or any other stuff.....i only want to drive normally without shattering.....i am not interested in details but pure driving.....when i drive in real then i dont look on birds flying  ;) or on trees.....and in game its for me the same...i dont look if the trees have leafs...when theres something green beside the track then its ok.... ;)

i am concentrating on driving and only wanted to know if this is possible with this PC........on LOW details.......when i can drive without any shattering then i would be happy....thats all  :)

Thanks all for information because i dont know many about PC´s and i am thankful for ani kind of help  :)
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: NOP on April 18, 2012, 02:37:21 PM
But you may have to change power supply for stronger one (especially if your PC is old).


I have a BeQuiet 580W Power Supply....is this enough?
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: NOP on April 18, 2012, 04:48:46 PM
I don't know this brand but 580W is more than enough. I just wanted to say that a lot of people builds expensive PC-s with massive video card and cheapest power supply. Supply parameters always will drop after long time. If you are starting with good quality and power reserve (it seems yours is that way) you don't need to worry. But cheapest one can go in smoke and you can consider yourself happy if he won't take motherboard with him.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
Now i setup my Pc.....will take a few hours......will see what happens..... ;)
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on April 18, 2012, 08:54:06 PM
Hope it works ;)

Be Quiet is a good brand, so it can do even more than 580W actually. You could probably even supply an SLI setup with that XD
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Capeta on April 18, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on April 18, 2012, 09:59:41 AM
I can get a ASUS M2V Board with a 3GHz Processor and 2GB DDR2 RAM and a GeForce 8500GT 512MB from a friend for not much money....

Would this work or is this even too slow?

And thanks for all your help  :)

Greetings, GhostriderPL
Yep u'll play it with this spec and anyway if it's you're friend u can test it ;) but buy it if it's really not too  expensive because some good pc on ebay or in market aren't very expensive ...
for exemple mine has to be buy on the market for 400 euro (u can convert ^^) and he has a nvdia 1gb an i5 4 gb of ram and one terra.
Title: Re: Maybe I am back ;)
Post by: GhostriderPl on May 17, 2012, 08:15:29 AM
Now i have some better hardware....BUT, some questions.

would it be better to use a new Windows? I have now WinXP (32bit).

Because with a new win like 7 or vista i can use directX11 instead of directX9 and 64 bit instead of 32.

Would it make a difference? Sorry for such stupid questions but i dont now anything about this..

Would be great if someone can help because i know that here few people who know much about computers  ;)


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: NOP on May 17, 2012, 08:36:32 AM
Every newer windows (7, vista) uses more resources than windows XP. So game will work faster on XP, but if your computer is fast it wont make any difference because drop of couple fps won't be noticeable. On the long run it's better to update because in couple years microsoft will stop supporting windows xp so no more security updates.
It only makes sense to use 64bit system when you have 64bit processor and more than 4GB of RAM (so in your case it's probably better to stick to 32).
And lastly KRP uses OpenGL so no need to worry about directx.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on May 17, 2012, 08:44:10 AM
I have a AMD64 processor so it will make sense?  And the old winxp dont support the full openGL from my graphics....

So you think that it wont make sense?

I dont know, i only see 64 instead of 32 and thought it would be faster  ;)

My specs : AMD64 (3GHz)
                 2GB DDR2
                 512MB GDDR3 Graphics (ATI Radeon HD5450)

And another question....there is a 64bit version of XP.......this makes any sense? or should i use my OLD XP?
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: dibu on May 17, 2012, 09:47:38 AM
With 2GB RAM it makes no sense to use a 64-bit windows and forget xp-64, you'll have too much driver problems.
You can choose between XP-32 and Win7-32, but as NOP already said XP uses less resources.
MS will support XP until 2014.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on May 17, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Understand  ;)

Can i make some other things to optimize my system? ive planned to buy some more ram in near time..

But are there any things i can make to optimize it so that i can use the full power of my hardware?

Thanks alot for your help guys  :)

Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: dibu on May 17, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
The best tuning is to keep your system small and clean. Only install what you really need. Don't touch all the useless (tuning) tools and other optional stuff. Choose an antivirus which is not resource hungry.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: Nitrox on May 17, 2012, 06:14:20 PM
From my experience Win7 runs faster than XP on every multi core system. As stated before, 64 bit makes no difference for you. If you upgrade to Win7, however, just choose 64bit. Waiting for Win8 makes no sense in my opinion.
There might be no big difference in game performence though. If you buy more ram, make sure you choose a compatible chip (same clk..) and maybe you can take advantage of a dual channel setup.
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: EVO on May 17, 2012, 09:48:39 PM
I doubled my ram and got 20 more fps.  Overclocked and got another 20
Title: Re: Time to say goodbye :(
Post by: GhostriderPl on May 17, 2012, 10:57:32 PM
Then i dont change my OS when it makes no sense...

But will buy soon more ram

I testes KRP with the new Hardware and for me its a lot better, the only thing is that now i dont have much time to play because of work and Races....

Hope i can soon start driving more and even drive some fast laps  ;)

Thank you all for your help  :)


Greetings, GhostriderPL