Beta 9 - Mini 60 + Beta 9

[Praga91]

Hey all i just want to find out what you guys think on Beta 9, so i can add onto the Discussion thanks.

Positives: Mini 60
- Mini 60 looks great!
- Good Setup
- Closer racing than with other classes because of fairness with small movements on turn in
- Bump drafting isn't as bad as other classes where you step out pretty fast if not done right
- The amount of detail in the mini 60 engine and chassis
- Harder to Flip (Which is good)

Negitives: Mini 60
- No wing on the Arai SK6 in mini 60
- Should be more than one chassis make (Mini 60), for example (Tony Kart, Birel and Techno Body types).
- Air cooled engines do not run as cool as 50 Degrees (100-140 would be right)
- Revs are too low as they have a limiter of 15,500rpm seen here (http://www.remoracing.com.au/latestnews/360) with maximum power of 9.3 horsepower devleoped at 10.250 rpm.
-  Engine sounds need to be developed in all classes for realistic feel.
- Not enough axle options in 30ml. And more of them like Super soft axle not only in mini 60 but all other classes(No Mini 60 kart has the option to run a 40 or higher)
- His face behind the visor is to mature in Mini 60, Need to make it look real young and drop the height of Field of view so you are not towering over the steering wheel because all the kids are just able to see where they are going.
- Choking is to fast and hand disappears whilst active.

Beta 9 Itself:
Positive:
- The new tyre options are great
- Dedicated server chat is great idea
- Max ping warning is also good

Wishlist for future updates: (Please post below so it can be added

- Being able to choose the height of the driver, as one size is not all.
- Sounds is a very important thing, the bouncing of a KZ when in low rev range would be nice
- having the option to look down whilst tucking! And being able to Tuck in KZ Whilst shifting
- Choking in KZ
- Having the line of new Tyres at the start and see them fade as time progresses on track.
- Decrease the draft as it is too big a pull in Mini 60.

More to be added, i just want to say a massive thanks to PiBoSo for the game so far. I am not alone when i say you have done a great job to get the simulator to where it is today, very much appreciated and we all get a massive enjoyment out of it all. Thanks Heaps PiBoSo look forward to the future updates!

- Post below if you would like to add anything 

[Matthew McLean]

+ 1, good job

[oppolo]

1 - Dedicated server chat is great
2 - Max ping warning is also good
3 - Being able to choose the height of the driver, as one size is not all.
4 - Sounds is a very important thing, the bouncing of a KZ when in low rev range would be nice
5 - having the option to look down whilst tucking! And being able to Tuck in KZ Whilst shifting
6 - Choking in KZ
7 - Having the line of new Tyres at the start and see them fade as time progresses on track.

1 - I tried a test of chat yesterday but the chat didn't work, worked only the command !restart
2 - after how many warnings the client is automatically kicked?
3 - in my opinion the point of view is already correct
4 - yes
5 - poor Piboso, what movement of head has to create? in real, do drivers tuck when shifting?
6 - mmm, but was it usefull only with f100?
7 - nah, it's arcadish

[Arrowjmax4]

1 - Dedicated server chat is great
2 - Max ping warning is also good
3 - Being able to choose the height of the driver, as one size is not all.
4 - Sounds is a very important thing, the bouncing of a KZ when in low rev range would be nice
5 - having the option to look down whilst tucking! And being able to Tuck in KZ Whilst shifting
6 - Choking in KZ
7 - Having the line of new Tyres at the start and see them fade as time progresses on track.

1 - I tried a test of chat yesterday but the chat didn't work, worked only the command !restart
2 - after how many warnings the client is automatically kicked?
3 - in my opinion the point of view is already correct
4 - yes
5 - poor Piboso, what movement of head has to create? in real, do drivers tuck when shifting?
6 - mmm, but was it usefull only with f100?
7 - nah, it's arcadish

7- Thats arcadish?

M8 do you even go kart?

look at every MG that has a coloured line, dunlops with writing in the middle? ITS SOMETHING IN REAL LIFE

[Praga91]

#6 Choking is not only applicable in a F100. Choking applies to all classes. if you do not understand the concept of choking please ask or research and to show you some onboard footage here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibfY5lhnVNk

Skip to 2:08 thay do it nearly every 2nd lap

[LauZzZn]

with the point of seeing over the steering and the chassis manufactures:
-i drove mini when i was 14 i was already very tall i was able to see verything
-piboso said that he wont make any different chassis but the community is able to make new chassis

[Praga91]

Thanks LauZzZn

[KZ2_Iceman97]

- Sounds is a very important thing, the bouncing of a KZ when in low rev range would be nice
- having the option to look down whilst tucking! And being able to Tuck in KZ Whilst shifting
- Choking in KZ

* When you bounce/bunny hop it is because the tyres are gripping and you are too sideways and the eninge rpm doesn't drop or anything unless your foot comes off the gas which is most of the time and would be a good feat to have
* tucking and shifting in a KZ is physically possible, have done it myself and it works as seen in this video of me doing it, ok it isn't in sprint racing but it is still possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ti5WxQ98k
* Choking a KZ helps but it isn't usually seen by a shifter kart driver as there is usually no need to choke due to front brakes  unless it is very hot or you need more power then that is pretty much the only time you choke in a KZ

[oppolo]

7- Thats arcadish?

M8 do you even go kart?

look at every MG that has a coloured line, dunlops with writing in the middle? ITS SOMETHING IN REAL LIFE

ah sorry, I understood some sort of slide bar on the screen, so you can see the wear of tyres during race?

[oppolo]

#6 Choking is not only applicable in a F100. Choking applies to all classes. if you do not understand the concept of choking please ask or research and to show you some onboard footage here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibfY5lhnVNk

Skip to 2:08 thay do it nearly every 2nd lap

ah ok, but in krp, in kz1 we don't need chooking, isn't it?

[Praga91]

#6 Choking is not only applicable in a F100. Choking applies to all classes. if you do not understand the concept of choking please ask or research and to show you some onboard footage here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibfY5lhnVNk

Skip to 2:08 thay do it nearly every 2nd lap

ah ok, but in krp, in kz1 we don't need chooking, isn't it?

its not about whether you need it or not it is about the feel and characteristics of the game

[Praga91]

- Sounds is a very important thing, the bouncing of a KZ when in low rev range would be nice
- having the option to look down whilst tucking! And being able to Tuck in KZ Whilst shifting
- Choking in KZ

* When you bounce/bunny hop it is because the tyres are gripping and you are too sideways and the eninge rpm doesn't drop or anything unless your foot comes off the gas which is most of the time and would be a good feat to have
* tucking and shifting in a KZ is physically possible, have done it myself and it works as seen in this video of me doing it, ok it isn't in sprint racing but it is still possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ti5WxQ98k
* Choking a KZ helps but it isn't usually seen by a shifter kart driver as there is usually no need to choke due to front brakes  unless it is very hot or you need more power then that is pretty much the only time you choke in a KZ

I Am meaning from European Spec style mate

[Ryan Harris]

This is the line he is talking about, the actual line on the tire.

[KZ2_Iceman97]

This is the line he is talking about, the actual line on the tire.

every tyre manufacture has something on a brand new tyre whether it be a line, word and numbers, symbols or anything really to show that it is a fresh brand new tyre straight out of the box. vega's have a line down the middle as well I think but would have to check as the last I used a set of Vega's was a while back now

[oppolo]

thanks guys, I'm learning so much things about karting in this forum