Ive finally finished my first conversion. Roskilde Karting Track i located in Zealand (Denmark) or in danish sjælland.
The track is originally made by Normark.
if you encounter any bugs please write to me.
Update:
Fixed the problem with no shadow with the help og evo1087
New download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?dug4dm16zxsjul1
Just had a look at the track with mapview, there are definately some bugs left ;)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7549/bugsf.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/bugsf.jpg/)
BTW, I have the one with the starting light too at a track i convert. I think the solution will be removing the alpha channel from the front texture.
Thanks for the finding on the startlights. Im already working on the sand spot on the track.
No problem, you're welcome. Just tried it myself, these are the correct textures ;)
What program did you use to change the textures?? photoshop??
Yes, just removed the alpha channel with photoshop. Didn't work in gimp somehow, as it removed everything but the red/green light...
When I want to go to the track nothing happened.
What do you mean??
Just a black screen??
@Hansen24
Thanks for the nice track, it's fun to drive. :)
I just saw that no time for T2 is displayed, because your split 1 and the S/F line are at the same point.
Also the virtual S/F is set about 15m behind the S/F, which is painted on the track. This is a bit irritating when you drive.
No not a black screen. When I want to drive nothing happened and the game stays in the overview of the laptimes. I wait 2 minutes. Then I return to my desktop without leaving the game, there is a small box which say that kart.exe doesn't work.
Thats odd.. i assume you have downloaded the updated track (I dont think it has a something to say)
I have just tried downloading the updated version to see if it was the right version (which it is) and i didnt get that problem...
I downloaded the updated track. But I found something weird. The file I download is a pkz, that's what mediafire said, but when I download it I get a zip file. I unpacked the zip and add it to the game. I also changed the zip into a pkz, and add it to the game again. But I had still the same. I can see it ingame, but when I want to drive it doesn't work.
Quote from: The Iceman Marco on July 25, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
I downloaded the updated track. But I found something weird. The file I download is a pkz, that's what mediafire said, but when I download it I get a zip file. I unpacked the zip and add it to the game. I also changed the zip into a pkz, and add it to the game again. But I had still the same. I can see it ingame, but when I want to drive it doesn't work.
Try this i have tried re uploading it
http://www.mediafire.com/?rglh9j4qpa1wtvt
Quote from: dibu on July 25, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
@Hansen24
Thanks for the nice track, it's fun to drive. :)
I just saw that no time for T2 is displayed, because your split 1 and the S/F line are at the same point.
Also the virtual S/F is set about 15m behind the S/F, which is painted on the track. This is a bit irritating when you drive.
Thanks with the T2 i was wandering why it didnt show.
Im gonna redo the S/F right away :)
Quote from: Hansen24 on July 25, 2011, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: The Iceman Marco on July 25, 2011, 07:10:15 PM
I downloaded the updated track. But I found something weird. The file I download is a pkz, that's what mediafire said, but when I download it I get a zip file. I unpacked the zip and add it to the game. I also changed the zip into a pkz, and add it to the game again. But I had still the same. I can see it ingame, but when I want to drive it doesn't work.
Try this i have tried re uploading it
http://www.mediafire.com/?rglh9j4qpa1wtvt
This doesn't work too. I don't know why, everything looks normal, I can see everything ingame, pictures, names etc, but when I want to go to the track it doesn't work. If I want to watch the replay I have the same, so it's only when I go to the track.
And its still a zip file? :o
If you redo it, also make a new centerline and close it at the end, before merging it. At the moment your centerline is not closed which can result in problems.
I have ended up redoing centerline and splits
Thanks, now it works and centerline is closed. :)
It's not possible to set a time in the online statistics.
After you registered your track you set a time with KC3. That's ok so far. But when I look at your splits, this lap seems to be done with the old version, where you had the T2 problem.
When I drive a lap with the updated version, it doesn't record the lap. That's because the fingerprint of the race data stored at the server is different from the new version.
You have to reregister the track and drive a new online lap with the updated track version.
im gonna do that in a bit ;D
the records for the track is working now
Thanks, already tested. ;)
Just so you got something to compare to:
Records from the real track
KF3: 51.770
KF2: 51.124
KZ2: 50.448
Thanks for the lap times. It seems I have to practice a bit to be competitive. ::)
Quote from: Hansen24 on July 24, 2011, 10:58:10 PM
if you encounter any bugs please write to me.
there are some "holes" outside of the track, between curbs and the grass
Can you discribe it a little better maybe if you can gets some pictures so i know where you mean
Quote from: Hansen24 on August 01, 2011, 01:27:39 PM
Can you discribe it a little better maybe if you can gets some pictures so i know where you mean
here is some
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde4.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde3.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde2.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde1.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde5.jpg)
here another
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/roskilde6.jpg)
I´ll see what i can do about it.
But i dont have the original file.
oppolo i think these diffrences in surface levels is fine maybe better than some tracks that dont have it, keeps drivers from cutting corners
Quote from: evo1087 on August 02, 2011, 05:12:22 AM
oppolo i think these diffrences in surface levels is fine maybe better than some tracks that dont have it, keeps drivers from cutting corners
eheh a system for prevent the cutting, sometimes when hit the grass is like a wall , by the way, is there a system that don't count the lap if it is cutted?
I know that there is a problem with the grass as it is so stepp that you can get "caught" if you dont got enough speed from going from the gras onto the track again
Quote from: Hansen24 on August 02, 2011, 05:20:03 PM
you can get "caught" if you dont got enough speed from going from the gras onto the track again
yes, anyway i have always solved pushing the kart forward/back, at the end i could go out of the "hole", but it is not nice to have that
I know i get anoyed too by it but as i said i dont think i can do much about it
Quote from: Hansen24 on August 02, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
I know i get anoyed too by it but as i said i dont think i can do much about it
yes i think so, you need the original files for to manage it with BTB, or something like that, conversions from RF have this issue
you can move any part of your track in 3ds max if you right click convert to mesh use vertex select move tool move to position, you can select a number of them by holding ctrl, when they turn red you can right click then click move transform offset world, this will give a better possition.
going of course in a kart should be punished, since the game doesnt have a damage engine for simulating failures, i think the surface height diffrences should stay. Checkpoints will prevent corner cutting. The only thing id like is shadows on track. it only shows on grass or other surfaces.
Pibosso told schwoni when he was developing Bueren
"Removing alpha channel from the asphalt texture you should get shadows on track."
Quote from: evo1087 on August 03, 2011, 05:19:58 AM
going of course in a kart should be punished, since the game doesnt have a damage engine for simulating failures, i think the surface height diffrences should stay. Checkpoints will prevent corner cutting. The only thing id like is shadows on track. it only shows on grass or other surfaces.
Pibosso told schwoni when he was developing Bueren
"Removing alpha channel from the asphalt texture you should get shadows on track."
Do you do that in 3ds or photoshop??
yeah. I could do it or explain how
If it is in photoshop can you do it?? since i dont got photoshop
yeah no problem PM me a rapidshare, mediafire, download link for the file
The problem with the shadows have been fixed. Just tested it for a couple of minutes ago
Nice update, thanks to you and evo1087. :)
Could you please reregister the track? As the track data changed, the online stats don't work at the moment.
I will do that right away
Roskilde has three wide curbs (at turn1 and at the two 180° turns in the infield).
Is it ok to use them as part of the racing line or is corner cutting?
I'm not sure about it. When I look at the checkpoints it seems to be ok. Two curbs are not checked and at the other one the whole curb is included in the checkpoint.
Before driving new hotlaps, I want to be sure. In my fastest laps I used the curb at turn1 (all other corners should be clean). Here is the link to a replay of my 51.796 with KC3.
http://www.mediafire.com/?9rmpmyxcfttb39c
Producing a track is very difficult as i am now learning. If you get photoshop just goto layers on the right next to its channels then right click on alpha channel and delte. This is easy making the track is hard. Great job Hansen24. Hope to see more tracks. And i hope you dobnt mind me asking for help
Quote from: evo1087 on August 06, 2011, 09:22:49 PM
Producing a track is very difficult as i am now learning. If you get photoshop just goto layers on the right next to its channels then right click on alpha channel and delte. This is easy making the track is hard. Great job Hansen24. Hope to see more tracks. And i hope you dobnt mind me asking for help
Is a very hard job! I started Villarcayo in May and I work on it everyday 2-3 hours, but I have a lot of work to do yet...
@evo1087 np you just ask if you need help with anything
Quote from: dibu on August 06, 2011, 09:44:51 AM
Here is the link to a replay of my 51.796 with KC3.
well done, here you can make better ;) it is also an easy turn playing with throttle and brake we can point well the kart. what final ratio do you use? i have 13/84 118km.h
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/Immagine.jpg)
I know that my KC3 laps can be optimized ;). My final ratio was 12/78 117km/h, the setup of this lap is attached. My KS1 lap was way better, but same style - I used the curb at turn1, everything else clean. Unfortunately I didn't save a replay of my best KS1 lap.
But back to my question. Should the wide curbs be part of the track or not? Roskilde is special, because other tracks don't offer this opportunity.
I looked for onboard videos of Roskilde to see the real lines, but it seems that these wide curbs don't exist in reality.
I want my own laps in the stats to be clean, but I also don't want to have a disadvantage by driving a unnecessary wide line. That's why I want to clear this point now.
If the usage of these curbs is not ok, Hansen24 should adapt the checkpoints to exclude them.
Quote from: dibu on August 07, 2011, 08:29:47 AM
- Should the wide curbs be part of the track or not? Roskilde is special, because other tracks don't offer this opportunity.
- I looked for onboard videos of Roskilde to see the real lines, but it seems that these wide curbs don't exist in reality.
- if i remember well bueren has wide curbs
- yes, dont exist in real. curbs in my opinion is part of track
http://youtu.be/C_aqSVbYWdY
Quote from: oppolo on August 06, 2011, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: dibu on August 06, 2011, 09:44:51 AM
Here is the link to a replay of my 51.796 with KC3.
well done, here you can make better ;) it is also an easy turn playing with throttle and brake we can point well the kart. what final ratio do you use? i have 13/84 118km.h
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/KRP/Immagine.jpg)
Maybe this can help :)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1055/unled2pr.jpg)
I would say that it is okay to use the wide curbs but im trying to get the files so i can make the curbes more realistic. And maybe and some more curbs when you are coming out of the corner
Trying to sort out a problem with my own ffb on my tracks with g27 could you please tell me what os you built this on window 7 , vista or xp, have you had any problems with btb on windows 7 if used, Done some laps around your track very good, thanks.
BTB works only on Win7 32bits
This is only a conversion Normark originally built it for rfactor and i converted it.
Aritz thanks for letting me know, i don't know if you have been on btb website resently as he has started it up again for the pro users there is a beta, which will be updated soon.
Hansen24 which os did you convert it on windows 7 vista or xp thanks.
Quote from: maxrod on August 07, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
Aritz thanks for letting me know, i don't know if you have been on btb website resently as he has started it up again for the pro users there is a beta, which will be updated soon.
I didn't know that, thank you. I am downloading it.
Quote from: oppolo on August 07, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
... curbs in my opinion is part of track
Quote from: Hansen24 on August 07, 2011, 11:00:05 AM
I would say that it is okay to use the wide curbs ...
Thanks for your opinions. I think the same, but wasn't sure.
@Hansen24
Can you try again to reregister the track? Maybe there was simply a problem yesterday, which also caused the connection timeout.
Quote from: maxrod on August 07, 2011, 12:24:53 PM
Hansen24 which os did you convert it on windows 7 vista or xp thanks.
I converted it on windows 7
..same problem here, can´t go to the track, but i see it in the list in the game.
@Dibu .....still cant get stats to work, i have no idea whats going on.
@Normark. Its strange you are the third person with that problem.
I hope PiBoSo can fix it.
In the meantime I used the old track to beat my KS1 time. 49.612 with the account of my son (replay saved this time).
At the moment Roskilde is my favorite Track. ;D
I updated the version on the download site & on the bierbuden.de server... I hope i got the latest version (from the first post in this thread) ;)
The version on the front page is always the newest
can u take a look at this track in 3ds? there are 2 parts where it lags massive since beta4 in this 2 corners i can see double material it flickers.
Maybe u can fix it? if u need help pls upload the 3ds file included all tga and gmt
This track still doesn't work for me, aswell as the new La Conca. Today we tried the last things which we could think might be the problem.
Today I installed krp on my new clean laptop and tried Rosklide, but it doesn't work on that aswell. Schwoni tried my activation key and I his. That doesn't help. We also tried all files and changed them. I also did the centerlines again. But nothing helped, and now we are out of ideas what the problem might be.
Piboso, can you help us finding the problem?
it works for me perfectly just the first corner by the pit exit i get a masive lag
By schwoni it works fine too except the lag you have. But there some other people like me where it doesn't work at all.
The track works for me but the FPS are too low. On one turn, the FPS are almost 0.
If i exctract the track i only get 4 files in my folder. Anyone knows how to solve?
Quote from: laraarsa on December 30, 2011, 09:31:56 AM
If i exctract the track i only get 4 files in my folder. Anyone knows how to solve?
I just testet both versions (the files are identical) from here:
http://kart.marianley.de/downloads.php
I always get 12 files when I unzip the pkz.