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Title: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 10:04:32 AM
Hey guys ! I'm here to make my own version of the 2011 Velox kart, but I need your help guys. Can anyone please find me some high resolution logos of Velox logo and SGM Engines? It would help alot :)
I will later post my progress of the kart.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 03:41:08 PM
I have a problem, I had the same problem with the Energy but not as much. Look at the lines ingame, they go so ugly and sharp, although it looks silkysmooth in Photoshop. Anyone know whats the problem ?

Ingame :
(http://www.upload.ee/image/1419919/kart_2011-06-15_16-30-58-14.bmp)
Photoshop :
(http://www.upload.ee/image/1419916/dlsd.jpg)
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: PiBoSo on June 15, 2011, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 03:41:08 PM
I have a problem, I had the same problem with the Energy but not as much. Look at the lines ingame, they go so ugly and sharp, although it looks silkysmooth in Photoshop. Anyone know whats the problem ?

This is due to textures compression.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
Ok I didn't really understand that sentence, what did I do to cause this and how is the best way to remove it ?
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: PiBoSo on June 15, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 03:51:18 PM
Ok I didn't really understand that sentence, what did I do to cause this and how is the best way to remove it ?

The engine uses a lossy compression for textures to save video memory.
Nothing can be done at the moment.

Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Racehard on June 15, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
But why didn't that happen to the other lines? Or my FA kart paint, there are several lines on it and they are all super sharp?
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: PiBoSo on June 15, 2011, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Racehard on June 15, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
But why didn't that happen to the other lines? Or my FA kart paint, there are several lines on it and they are all super sharp?

Then maybe backwardsbanana is going through JPG compression instead of saving directly to TGA format?
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 05:44:04 PM
Nope, right from PSD to tga. It's weird that only some of the lines are like that, not all. Also on the Energy corse, in the front this happened, but not on the sides :S
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Racehard on June 15, 2011, 06:45:44 PM
Hmm, maybe it is caused of something you do in photoshop, to paint these lines?

Btw apart from the problem, the paint is just amazing, great work!
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 15, 2011, 09:10:21 PM
Some lines are drawn with doing a selection with the pen tool and then brushing the inside with the selected colour and some are strokes of selections.

Should I keep on doing the skin as I am doing or should I stop or what? Give me some advice.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Racehard on June 15, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
I wish I could give you some advice, even I don't think it is the way you paint, but you could try to point out if you did something different and what you did different on those lines which don't look that good.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: T.J. Koyen on June 16, 2011, 02:05:38 AM
Do you have Illustrator? It really works better for pen tool drawings, as that's what it's made for. It could be from how you're selecting it. Instead of making a selection and brushing it in, just draw the shape with the pen tool as a shape layer.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 22, 2011, 11:42:45 AM
Ok, even though the lines are really crappy and sharp, I still decided to finish the kart. It doesn't have any logos on it because I couldn't find any high resolution logos. If you guys want, I can also make the suit and create those logos myself ( It would take alot of time, but if you guys want it, I can do it ). Here is a picture of how it looks like, tell me if you want me to release this thing or not ;)

(http://www.upload.ee/image/1438543/kart_2011-06-22_12-40-56-15.bmp)

On the picture the kart doesn't even look THAT bad, but believe me, it's not good...
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Josi on June 22, 2011, 04:02:46 PM
Looks really good.
Keep the good work up!
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Diddy4957 on June 22, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
looks mint
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Racehard on June 22, 2011, 07:20:14 PM
Really like it, too bad there is the problem with the picelation  :-\
But I would drive it anyway, because it is still very well done.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Shawn Campbell on June 24, 2011, 03:58:33 AM
I had this same pixelation issue when I was making the Kosmic kart.  It seems that using anti-aliasing helps, but it definitively has to do with the texture compression.  Thicker lines tend to not have this problem as much; its just the thinner lines and how the texture compression "renders" them.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Shawn Campbell on June 24, 2011, 03:59:02 AM
By the way, very nice work so far on that kart.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: backwardsbanana on June 24, 2011, 01:36:29 PM
Hey guys ! The HQ Velox with crappy lining is finally released ! As always, I am only proud of my suit, the suit looks real good but I can't say the same about the kart...

Anyways here are some pictures and the download link is below
Oh and by the way, if the Velox logos are a bit crappy then consider that I had to make them myself, because I didn't find any higher resolution ;)

(http://www.upload.ee/image/1442677/kart_2011-06-24_14-29-10-89.bmp)
(http://www.upload.ee/image/1442679/Untitled-1.png)

Download link : http://www.mediafire.com/?n4gtpxvg3dx6he8
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: Racehard on June 24, 2011, 07:39:16 PM
I can imagine, you must be disappointed about the lines.

But anyway, the paint still looks awesome, and it is a pretty complicated one aswell, so you did a really great job!

Thank you :)

btw: Nice helmet.
Title: Re: High quality Velox 2011
Post by: EVO on June 29, 2011, 01:04:02 AM
good job