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General => Setups => Topic started by: Robin Mayer on November 04, 2014, 04:54:35 PM

Title: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Robin Mayer on November 04, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
Whats te optimal tire pressure? When they are warm.
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Tr!st@n on November 04, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
In my opinion its around 1.00 bar warm, but im not a pro.
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Cory_Hayes on November 04, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
Quote from: KartLH on November 04, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
In my opinion its around 1.00 bar warm, but im not a pro.

too high
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on November 04, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
Personally I run .6 bar. I usually just run stock setup with the exception of caster, and the bars.
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 04, 2014, 05:46:46 PM
My soft tyres usually show between 0.88 and 0.95 bar at the end of a run.
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Cory_Hayes on November 04, 2014, 05:49:54 PM
how much do you slide around?
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 04, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: Cory_Hayes on November 04, 2014, 05:49:54 PM
how much do you slide around?
I never really analysed it by watching my replays but I try to slide as less as possible. Do you think my temperatures show too much slide?
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Cory_Hayes on November 04, 2014, 06:24:31 PM
Maybe....
I normally have my tyres sit at around
.8 bar... and I try to even them all out ( hot pressure )
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 04, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
I also even them out.
0.80 bar gives me the feeling of having less grip than at 0.90 - at more than 0.95 the tyres start to overheat and at 1.00 you are riding a dead horse.

Next time I'll watch my replay and look how much I'm really sliding.
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 26, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
Here an old KRP discussion about tyres, maybe it's still interesting:
http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=1518.0

Here some general setup tips from real life (not directly tyre pressure):
http://www.dunlopkartsport.com.au/technical

Sorry this (good) setup guide I only found in German language - maybe google or another translator helps:
http://www.dunlop.eu/dunlop_dede/das-macht-dunlop-so-einzigartig/motorsport/kart/setup.jsp
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
Quote from: dibu on November 04, 2014, 06:44:52 PM
I also even them out.
0.80 bar gives me the feeling of having less grip than at 0.90 - at more than 0.95 the tyres start to overheat and at 1.00 you are riding a dead horse.

Next time I'll watch my replay and look how much I'm really sliding.

...its not really about the pressure it hads...its more about the temp of the tyre....( the way I see it, and it works really well for me)
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 27, 2014, 07:42:54 AM
Quote from: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
...its not really about the pressure it hads...its more about the temp of the tyre....( the way I see it, and it works really well for me)
This means you're ignoring the pressure and use the optimal tyre temperature as reference?
Which temperature should a warm tyre reach e.g. KZ1?

You are one of the fastest guys here, so I think it's not wrong to follow your proposals to find a good setup. ;)
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: dibu on November 27, 2014, 07:42:54 AM
Quote from: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
...its not really about the pressure it hads...its more about the temp of the tyre....( the way I see it, and it works really well for me)
This means you're ignoring the pressure and use the optimal tyre temperature as reference?
Which temperature should a warm tyre reach e.g. KZ1?

You are one of the fastest guys here, so I think it's not wrong to follow your proposals to find a good setup. ;)

Optimal tyre temp.....I let my tyres between 50-70 degrees,  I will normally offset tyre pressures, to make certain tyres stay colder or get warmer. If you know what I am saying :)
Title: Re: Optimal tire pressure
Post by: dibu on November 27, 2014, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: dibu on November 27, 2014, 07:42:54 AM
Quote from: Cory_Hayes on November 27, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
...its not really about the pressure it hads...its more about the temp of the tyre....( the way I see it, and it works really well for me)
This means you're ignoring the pressure and use the optimal tyre temperature as reference?
Which temperature should a warm tyre reach e.g. KZ1?

You are one of the fastest guys here, so I think it's not wrong to follow your proposals to find a good setup. ;)
Optimal tyre temp.....I let my tyres between 50-70 degrees,  I will normally offset tyre pressures, to make certain tyres stay colder or get warmer. If you know what I am saying :)
Thanks for your hints. I always looked for equal pressure at my warm tyres. But your approach sounds logic, I'll give it a try.  :)