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MaxTM is a telemetry tool for GPB, MXB, WRS and KRP: it allows to display graphs of the telemetry data exposed by GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP. It has two main components:

• A GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP plugin: in charge to generate the telemetry data files.
• A viewer application: in charge of displaying graphically the telemetry files saved by the plugin.

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DOWNLOAD v2.7: (https://mega.nz/#F!UB91VRIS!xmltgTQ7AnbUsLcZ6exa7A)  <<-- THIS if for GPB beta21, WRS beta14, KRP rel13 and MXB beta18

Love this stuff and you want to show that ? Have too much money at hand and don't knowe what to do with it ? Donations are welcome  8)
PM me when donations are done, so that I can keep a donors list HERE (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=6059.0).

(https://www.paypal.me/HornetMaX)

INSTALLATION

• Download the archive from the link above and extract it somewhere. Inside the main folder you should have 4 extra folders: one for the plugin(s), one for the viewer and 2 folders with sample data.
• Take the viewer folder (MaxTM_Viewer-vX.Y) and the 2 sample foders and put them somewhere (Desktop, Documents, wherever you have write rights). DON'T PUT THEM IN Program Files OR SIMILAR. The viewer is a portable app: it does not write anything in the registry, it requires no installation (in the Windows sense) and it won't ask you if you want to install a stupid toolbar.
• Now run the viewer application (MaxTM_Viewer.exe and check it starts without issues. If it complains for missing dlls, you may need to install:
  
  • Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable Package (x64) (https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746572)  for GPB, MXB abd WRS
  • Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable Package (x86) (https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=746571)  for KRP
• If you want to generate telemetry data from GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP you have to install the plugin: in the plugin folder (MaxTM_Plugin-vX.Y) you have 4 .dlo files (one each for GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP) and a folder named MaXTM_data. Just copy the appropriate .dlo and the MaXTM_data to the GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP plugins folder.
• Restarting GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP and going to the track you should hear a heartbeat sound each time you start a run: this confirm that the telemetry logging is active.
• You can also press 'Z' to see is if logging is currently ON or OFF, and CTRL+Z to toggle it ON/OFF. You can change the key in the .ini file of the plugin (MaxTM.ini, in the GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP data folder).
• Telemetry log data will be saved (2 files per run) in folder MaxTM under GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP data directory (e.g. C:\Users\MaX\Documents\PiBoSo\GP Bikes).

IMPORTANT:

• The telemetry file can be relatively big if you ride a lot. Remember to clean-up the MaxTM folder from time to time.
• If you want to disable the plugin (for whichever reason), you simply rename it from .dlo to .dlo.off (or to .pizza) or edit the .ini file of the plugin (MaxTM.ini, in the GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP data folder) and set 'active' to false.

USAGE:
I'll briefly describe the main features here: there is no user manual yet (and maybe there will never be one), but the viewer is not too complicate.

• The main areas of the main window have tooltips (i.e. little text explanations that appear when you leave the mouse still on them for a while): READ THEM.
• The main areas of the main window have tooltips (i.e. little text explanations that appear when you leave the mouse still on them for a while): READ THEM (intentional repetition)
• Seriously, read the tooltips: in particular the ones of the graphs and track map, as they explain how to interact with the graphs using the mouse. I could resume the thing here, but if I do it then you won't read the freakin' tooltips, so I won't do it  :P
• On most areas a context menu is available: just right-click with the mouse.
• The worst thing you could do with the viewer is delete some telemetry file: it's not a dangerous app, don't be afraid to try things around.
• The general idea is:
  
  • You can open an arbitrary number of telemetry files at the same time. Each telemetry file will appear as a Run containing some Laps.
  • On the left you have the Runs/Laps as seen via the telemetry data, along with their lap times (as seen by the telemetry).
  • On the right (in the panel named Timings you have the same Runs and more or less the same Laps, with more or less the same lap times (as seen by GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP) and their split times.
  • Telemetry lap times come in two flavours: column "Lap Time" is based on GPB/MXB/WRS/KRP timing, column "Lap Time (w)" is based on an external timer which turns out to be more precise (I think it's some sort of bug, but I have no feedback on it from Piboso).
  • The telemetry lap times should more or less match the "official" lap times (the one in the Timings panel). Small errors are normal (up to 0.1-0.2 sec I'd say), larger ones are not.
  • The number of laps between the Runs/Laps panel and the Timings panel may not be identical: typically due to not completed laps, out of pits laps and so on. It's not too hard to see which lap in Runs/Laps corresponds to which lap in Timings.
  • In Runs/Laps you can select up to 4 laps (each one has a specific color): the 1st lap you you select will be the reference lap.
  • On the right you have (by default) one Graphs panel: here you can have the telemetry data plotted. You can have multiple graphs panels.
• In each graphs panel, using the context menu (right-click), you can:
  
  • customize the number of graphs (as an N by M grid) and their appearance (axis labels, tick labels).
  • customize the each individual graph: delta plot (see later on), join/mark data points, show/position the legend etc.
  • customize what to plot on each graph on the X and Y axes (the variable on the X axis is the same for all the graphs in the panel)
  • Save the current layout of the graphs panel, so that you can reload it next time.
• Delta graphs: a delta graph is simply a graph where instead of plotting (let's say) the speed against the position on the track (centerline) of the selected laps, you plot the difference in speed between the 1st selected lap (the reference lap) and the other selected laps. So if you have 4 selecte dlaps, on a normal plot you'll have 4 lines while on a delta plot you'll have 3 lines, each of them being the speed difference between selected lap 1 and selected laps 2, 3 and 4.
• The viewer app comes with 2 themes: the default "bright" one (almost white background) and a darker one I find very handy at night (did I told you I average 4-5hrs of sleep per day ?).

I'll open another topic to gather your feedback on this: please try to keep this topic clean (just for new versions etc).

MaX.

v1.3 out:

• Fix a nasty bug on Close/Delete unselected runs (it was closing/deleting the selected ones ...  :-[ )

MaX.

im loving this little piece of software, its great for data analysis after doing a test session.

i would love to be able to make a custom graph tab,

is this possible? i would love to track steering angle, throttle pedal position, brake pedal position etc...

i would love to be able to do this to improve my driving on krp and get the most out of testing.

regards
sam

Uh, it's already possible sam19 !

Read the (short) description in the link in the first message (MaxTM - A telemetry tool for GPB and WRS (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1151.msg13551#msg13551)).

MaX.

v1.4 out:

• Updated for GPB beta5 (no changes for WRS and KRP).

MaX.

Very Sorry didn't realize it was all under the y axis :)

sam

v1.5 out:

• Updated for WRS beta5 (no changes for GPB and KRP).

MaX.

v1.6 out:

• Fix bug when track name contains a "." (thanks to Desteban for reporting)

MaX.

v1.7 out:

• Fix bug affecting WRS only (no changes for GPB and KRP)

MaX.

v1.8 out:

• Updated for GPB beta6.
• Switched to QCustomPlot 1.3beta (soved a nasty bug in TrackMap).
• Better handling of "strange" cases (data files with diferent fields).
• Better handling of tooltips.
• Graph title instead of X/Y axes legends.
• Customizable title & legend position.
• Axes tick labels can be shown also on right/top axes and can be shown inside of the plot.
• Various bug fixes.

MaX.

v1.9 out:

• Now works for MXB too.
• Allow to modify selected laps colors.
• Ideal lap time (per run) shown in Timings panel.
• Selecting a lap in Timings panel will show the other laps times as difference to this lap.

MaX.

Thank you MaX :)

update for KRP beta 12? thanks

v1.10 out:

• Updated for KRP beta12 (no changes for others).

MaX.

don't work with the last beta 14, please update, thanks

Quote from: VELOCIPEDE on July 26, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
don't work with the last beta 14, please update, thanks

Really ?!

MaX.

i don't have the BIP at the start of the session, i need to control the telemetry data ?

Quote from: VELOCIPEDE on July 27, 2015, 10:43:12 AM
i don't have the BIP at the start of the session, i need to control the telemetry data ?

Man, when a new version of KRP is out, all the plugin stuff may need an update.
If there are no chnages ot the plugin interface, then the plugins working with the previous beta will work with the new one too.
But if there are changes, they will not work.

Beta14 introduced quite a lot of changes for the plugins, so I simply need the time to work on this. It arrived 3 days ago ... I have a wife, 2 kinds, a job, a motorbike and I do need at least 5hrs sleep every day. So it may take a while.

MaX.

my post it's only to report the problem

Quote from: VELOCIPEDE on July 27, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
my post it's only to report the problem

You mean the fact that 3 days after a new beta the different plugins are not yet updated ?
Doesn't sound like a problem and yep, I'm fully aware of that anyway.

When a new version is ready, I'll post it here, as always.

MaX.

any news Max? thanks

Yep, but not good ones I guess.

I'm mostly a GPB fan and GPB lately has received very little attention from Piboso (last beta was 1 year ago and was a tiny upgrade of the previous one, which was rather old too, not solving any of the glaring issues reported). That has significantly lowered my willingness to spend time on the HUD plugin, the telemetry tool and other stuff I have around Piboso's games (a tool to edit the .scl sound file and one to show/edit the Pacejka's tyre model).

Bottom line: until my interest in GPB is back again, there won't be any other update for KRP (nor MXB, WRS, GBP).

Sorry guys.

MaX.

 :( :'(
your telemetry is a fantastic tool for the newby and for expert driver

Quote from: VELOCIPEDE on September 22, 2015, 10:00:29 PM
:( :'(
your telemetry is a fantastic tool for the newby and for expert driver

Thanks, I'm glad it is appreciated (even if I'm sure it could be much better).
I won't drop it completely (unless some catastrophe happens), let's say it's on standby, like all the other stuff I do for GPB &co.

MaX.

v1.11 out:

• Updated for GPB beta7, WRS beta7b, MXB beta3, KRP beta14.
• IMPORTANT: telemetry files saved with older versions of MaxTM are not supported. You won't be able to open them.

Hi HornetMax

i tried downloading this last night but cant seem to get it to work it just comes up with the Mega cloud logo and then stop

sam

Quote from: sam19 on February 11, 2016, 06:22:46 PM
i tried downloading this last night but cant seem to get it to work it just comes up with the Mega cloud logo and then stop

Works fine for me, with both chrome and firefox.

v1.12 out:

• Updated for MXB beta4.
• Fix for minor bug reported by Slawi (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1153.msg46284#msg46284). (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1153.msg46284#msg46284).)
• Now compiling under MSVC 2013, so if you miss some dlls, you need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable Package (x86) (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784): once you press Download, select the x86 version "vcredist_x86.exe".

v1.13 out:

• Does not work for MXB beta4 (keep on using v1.12 for it).
• Updates for GPB beta 9, WRS beta 9 and KRP beta 15.

You may need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable Package (x86) (https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=48145): once you press Download, select the x86 version "vcredist_x86.exe".

many thanks Max

v1.14 out:

• Fix bug with Z/ctrl-Z not showing any string in game.
• Fix bug on suspensions values (GPB only).

v1.15 (2016/12/29) out:

• Updatetd for MXB beta5.

v1.16 (2017/06/19) out:

• Updatetd for GPB beta11, MXB beta6, KRP beta16 and WRS beta11.
• Fix a bug in timings panel (happening "only" for MXB, KRP and WRS).

v1.17 (2018/01/23) out:

• Updatetd for GPB beta13 (no changes for MXB, KRP and WRS).
• TC, EB and AW signals from ECU are now logged.

v2.0 out:

• Updates for GPb beta14, WRS beta13, MXB beta8 and KRP rel6.
• Now possible to chnage the sign in diff graphs, i.e (ref_lap - other_lap) or (other_lap - ref_lap): right click on the graph, current graph proprties, delta plot (inverted).

I've added a PayPal donate button in the 1st post 8)

v2.1 out:

• Updates for KRP rel8 (x64).

I've added a PayPal donate button in the 1st post 8)

v2.2 out:

• Updates for GPB beta16.

I've added a PayPal donate button in the 1st post 8)

v2.3 out:

• Updates for GPB beta19 (tyre temps are logged).

I've added a PayPal donate button in the 1st post 8)

v2.4 out:

• In the viewer, the displayed track width is now in actual meters.
• Fix for GPB: logging of TC/EB/AW flags was wrong.
• For GPB & MXB only: added some data about tire slip (from wheelspeed and CoG speed).

V2.5 out (2021/12/19)

• Updates for GPB beta20 (only, no changes for MXB, WRS and KRP).

V2.6 out (2022/02/06)

• Updates for MXB beta17 (only, no changes for GPB, WRS and KRP).

V2.7 out (2023/08/18)

• Updates for GPB beta21 (only, no changes for GPB, WRS and KRP).

I've added a PayPal donate button in the 1st post 8)

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