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General => Setups => Topic started by: sam19 on February 20, 2014, 09:43:03 PM

Title: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 20, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
Hi guys,

What kind of set ups do people currently have and what's the best steering wheels to get for around £150-200

Iv been looking at second hand g25s and they seem to be regularly availed second hand.

I'm thinking of doing a sim for my final project at Uni I'm going to use the existing parts of a kart and take apart the g25 wheel and pedals and make a system that runs with KRP. Has anybody tried this or trying this ?

Looking to make a couple of tracks aswell but need to learn 3dmax. I also want to make an engine. I'm good on solidworks which is a CAD program and can measure every bit of the real engine to get it right I'm just wondering how much detail I need to go into and how do I then get the model into the game ?

Regards
Sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 20, 2014, 11:51:44 PM
If i were you id go for the G27 as its newer and quiter than the old G25, PC world have a good deal on for £199 http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/pc-gaming-accessories/game-controllers/logitech-g27-racing-wheel-21406542-pdt.html (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/pc-gaming-accessories/game-controllers/logitech-g27-racing-wheel-21406542-pdt.html)
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 21, 2014, 01:14:30 AM
Awesome looks good,

so what happens when i get the steering wheel, do i jsut plug it in and change all the controls to tones on the wheel etc.. or do i need a plugin or driver?

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 21, 2014, 01:35:25 AM
Basically you download the logitech controller driver http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/support/g27-racing-wheel?osid=14&bit=64 (http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/support/g27-racing-wheel?osid=14&bit=64) this enables you to control wheel rotation, springs, dampening, ffb strength etc.. Pretty self explanatory really. Then the wheel is plug and playable via usb. You will then NEED to configure the controls in the KRP setting menu for it to work in game. Depending on the sim im playing i just change the degrees of rotation in the software, then its just a case of starting up the game and racing.
Got mine just under a year ago now, never had any problems with, would recommend it to anyone looking for a great quality mid range wheel
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 23, 2014, 11:58:11 AM
awesome cheers guys,

with regards to viewing when in the sim, is a 3x24" monitor system better or 1 projector with curved wall or a 42" tv better?

from what iv seen im guessing 3x24" monitors will be better?

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 23, 2014, 09:26:55 PM
Personally, i would go for the 3x24" monitors, if your into creating paints/tracks etc... the availability of having 3 monitors is very valuable.  I think the projector one would be nice with a curved wall and it would be bezeless but i think it will turn out to be more expensive than monitors (projector, then you have to make a curved wall etc...). I got 3 brand new monitors off ebay for £40 per monitor (2x HP and 1x BenQ). I use to use a 32" TV but would never go back to using it as it doesnt immerse you as much as the triple screen setup did, so i would not go for that one.
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 23, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
this is what I'm thinking, only problem is i need a PC as i couldn't run 3 screens off my macbook, but then if i want to do it properly i need a sim PC anyway and then i can run things like rFactor and iRacing.

what angle do you have your monitors at? iv seen a lot that are more abled then your and some that are the same

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 23, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
I think my monitors are at 40 degree angle but I'm not sure as I'm always moving them about to sort out wires and stuff. I'm running a 6 core AMD system with a gigabyte windforce 270x (I've oveclocked it a bit aswell), runs 3 monitors fine at good fps, 120 on I racing at maxed out graphics option's. I'd shop around for PC parts to make a gaming PC as you can get much better deals than complete unit's,  I decided to spend out on components because then it should still be a good gaming PC for the next 4+ years, a mistake I made a few years ago spent very little on parts but was only good for the next year or so then it was upgrade time again!

If you go AMD remember one monitor has to use a display port to connect to the graphics card for eyefinity to work correctly the rest are connected using DVI.
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 24, 2014, 12:06:59 AM
thats like speaking spanish to me haha not really any idea what your on about when it comes to custom building a PC,

iv got a lot of friends that are into it and have been asking them millions of questions

hoping to spend around £400-500 on the Pc

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 24, 2014, 01:46:54 AM
Haha sorry fair enough :) 450 should be enough to get you something good :) if you have any other questions please ask happy to help ;)
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 26, 2014, 04:08:24 PM
just been looking and found a pc for £250ish with a good graphics card in so going to buy it, do i need 2 graphics cards to run a 3 monitor display ?

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: LauZzZn on February 26, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: sam19 on February 26, 2014, 04:08:24 PM
just been looking and found a pc for £250ish with a good graphics card in so going to buy it, do i need 2 graphics cards to run a 3 monitor display ?

sam
No but 3 digital ports
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on February 26, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
what do you mean 3 digital ports?

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on February 26, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
No you don't have to have 2 cards, more often then not its better to get a higher model single graphics card than it is to get 2 and either SLI or Crossfire them, what he means is you will have 3 wires from your card to your monitor's, one for each, an AMD card uses 2 DVI's and one displayport.

Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 12, 2014, 10:17:37 AM
ok so i have been looking and from what i can see i think its going to be cheap to get 2 graphics cards and a bigger power supply

can KRP run 2 graphics cards as some of my mates said some games dont have the function to run 2 graphics cards

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: maxrod on March 12, 2014, 10:45:54 AM
If I was you I would get one good card as much as you can afford, as I had to GTX 260 in SLI both the same brand, on most games I would get a micro stutter this included dirt 2 at the time, They may be better with the support now, I use one hd 7950 with 3 screens in eyefinity and this is great it does everything I need from 3d modelling to playing games, look at reviews first to see how and if there is still a problem as you may be wasting your money, They have some good R7 cards now quiet cheep http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards/AMD+Radeon/Radeon+R7+240 hope this helped.
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 12, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Cheers thank you ,

i have been looking at buying a GTX 480 as i was told it is very good for the price, around £90 new, the only problem is there power hungry so need a very good PSU, I'm thinking of buying 2 so will need a minimum 1000W PSU, I'm currently looking into it but I'm hoping to buy the graphics cards then find a MOBO and all the rest of the components

i am currently working on the sim its self so not paid much attention to the system it will be running on, its running on my laptop currently which is fine while i test tracks and paints etc... but when the sim is finished i will hopefully have built up a computer worth of running it, I'm hoping to run rFactor on it swell,

This is my Progress so far :

(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/Screenshot2014-03-12181607_zps3ab96652.png)

above is an image of the 3D CAD model of the hand brake/ clutch system,my system will use the potentiometer out of a G27 pedal ,the system which will operate as it does on current real karts, I'm on a 3D Design course and we have 3D printers so i have 3D printed everything and will get it machined out of aluminium in the next would week,

below is an image of it 3D printed,

(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/Mobile%20Uploads/A05CD290-CEBC-400D-A615-9498FB8BEDCE_zpsr3ikb820.jpg)

Please let me know what you think, am hopefully going to print the pedals so they work using the same technique, will be printing them tomorrow and friday should have a fully working system by the weekend,

for the shifter i have taken the micro switches off the G27 steering wheel and mounted them on the kart and made my own whiter lever, i am currently in the process of mounting this on the kart and will add pictures as i go along

I have also got the chassi ready, currently finishing off the pedal design which im hoping to post about on the weekend

Sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 14, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
iv got another little update now,

i have test fitted the shifter and made the rest of the components for the front brake and clutch system, these will be machined out of aluminium next week,

This is me testing the shiver and the wheel on the chassis I'm going to be building it on

(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/IMG_0662_zps70eaa74a.jpg)
(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/IMG_0671_zps49d3a462.jpg)

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: Braden Eves on March 15, 2014, 04:47:06 AM
Looks cool, but just one graphics card is not going to need a 1000 watt power supply, I have a gtx 660 and an intel 3570k and I use a 700w psu.
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 15, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
I have been looking at the gtx660 and I think it's the one I'm going to pick.

I have pretty much figured out what I want to build with regards to the PC I just need to find the cash to make it happen

Sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on March 15, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
If you can, go with a GTX 760/770, because they are only a little more expensive. Also, get something over 2GB of vram, because with all of the anti-aliasing, etc on triple screens uses more than 2GB. If you can, at least find a 4GB 660 and buy two, just so it will last further into the future.
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: James Beer on March 15, 2014, 07:39:44 PM
Looking good sam!
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 16, 2014, 03:56:53 PM
cheers james, cant wait for it to be finished,

Corrie, i dont really want to be spending alot on the computer as it will only be running KRP and rFactor, maybe a few others,

im looking to spend a maximum of £350 if im only using one graphics card

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on March 28, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
There is a little progress on this, i have had the handles for the front brake/clutch system,

below are the handles, I'm picking up the rest on monday

(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6782_zps221b544c.jpg)

then i cut them out and filed them down
(http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh590/sam_19_xix/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1391_zpsbdcf3c80.jpg)

sam
Title: Re: Making a Sim
Post by: sam19 on June 02, 2014, 09:17:56 PM
http://instagram.com/p/ovX8nkG76k/ (http://instagram.com/p/ovX8nkG76k/)

Just for you guys