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Title: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 04:41:35 AM
im going to make an ICA engine for the sim
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BETA 1 RELEASE: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ukdgv7vdh74ks38/ICA%20Maxter%20Beta%201.rar
* No radiator strut
* No radiator hose
* A lot more work needed
*Still a lot more to do  ;D
BETA 2 RELEASE: http://www.mediafire.com/download/e56rvz7da9cwc1t/ICA+Maxter+100cc+Beta+2.rar
*Added Sprocket(Rotates correctly)
*Added new sounds(Still need a little work)
*Updated radiator
*Radiator strut properly placed
*Added radiator hose
*Radiator arm cover now correct
*Added Socorem airbox - Thanks EVO
*Added Spark Plug+Cap+Wire+Ignition
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on November 30, 2013, 04:45:02 AM
Does the engine have a Bitmap?
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 05:02:17 AM
yeah i found the problem and fixing it now. thanks :D
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on November 30, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
Just to ask, how did you get it transparent? I want to do that with the shield on the Rotax radiator, but I can't find good textures.
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 05:04:52 AM
dunno to be honest haha, but in the material editor there is a transparency adjuster to change it
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on November 30, 2013, 05:05:55 AM
I'll investigate it   :D Thanks.
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 05:08:49 AM
anytime  :D
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: EVO on November 30, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
doe sthe texture itself have alphachannel? if it does delete it
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
I have all texturing issues fixed now, just need someone to help with physics
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: EVO on December 01, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
Use f100 no?
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 12:46:24 AM
Quote from: EVO on December 01, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
Use f100 no?
I was thinking about that, just might need a few changes
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Birel-Rotax 42 on December 01, 2013, 01:32:40 AM
Do you have a Dyno sheet?
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: EVO on December 01, 2013, 04:50:01 AM
can we have more screenshots with the textures fixed
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 05:13:19 AM
When I get home from work I will  :D
Title: Re: ICA W.I.P
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 06:49:26 AM
Quote from: EVO on December 01, 2013, 04:50:01 AM
can we have more screenshots with the textures fixed
screenshots now updated  :D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Cory_Hayes on December 01, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
It goes alright :)
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: Cory_bro on December 01, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
It goes alright :)
thanks  :D i still need to give it some more bottom end kick to get the feel right
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: GhostriderPl on December 01, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Which files I have to put where? Have download it but I have only a bunch of files and dont know which must be in which folder.

Maybe I am to dumb for it.  ;) ::)

Would be great if you could explain it.


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on December 01, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Which files I have to put where? Have download it but I have only a bunch of files and dont know which must be in which folder.

Maybe I am to dumb for it.  ;) ::)

Would be great if you could explain it.


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Just copy the folders in the rar file to your installation directory  ;D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: GhostriderPl on December 01, 2013, 12:00:13 PM
That's my problem.....In the rar file I have only files, no folders.

A  list with files. And I don't know which belongs to which folder

I use WINZIP, maybe that's the problem?

??? :-\


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
That will probably be the issue :)
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: GhostriderPl on December 01, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
Yeah it is. Have download winrar, and now it shows it how it has to be.
Sorry for my dumbness.  ::) ;)


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on December 01, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
Yeah it is. Have download winrar, and now it shows it how it has to be.
Sorry for my dumbness.  ::) ;)


Greetings, GhostriderPL
It's all good, your not dumb mate  :). I hope you like it
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 01, 2013, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: Sam Flintham on November 30, 2013, 04:41:35 AM
im going to make an ICA engine for the sim, could anyone help me with the engine torque curve as i am having trouble, thanks.  :D
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BETA 1 RELEASE: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ukdgv7vdh74ks38/ICA%20Maxter%20Beta%201.rar
* No sprocket
* No radiator strut
* No radiator hose
* A lot more work needed
Still a lot more to do  ;D








don´t work :(
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Cory_Hayes on December 01, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
...it does work?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 01, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cory_bro on December 01, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
...it does work?

no by my don´t work it
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 01, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cory_bro on December 01, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
...it does work?

no by my don´t work it
What is the problem?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: EVO on December 01, 2013, 08:10:05 PM
you should use a different airbox because the APE wasnt used on the ICA.  I can give you the 3D max file for the socorem which was used on most ICA
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: EVO on December 01, 2013, 08:10:05 PM
you should use a different airbox because the APE wasnt used on the ICA.  I can give you the 3D max file for the socorem which was used on most ICA
That would be greatly appreciated thanks EVO  ;D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: EVO on December 01, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Socorem airbox source files: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7D8HkeySEkhMVBrMUtmWGhwVkE/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 02, 2013, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 01, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cory_bro on December 01, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
...it does work?

no by my don´t work it
What is the problem?
when i change the engin to ica than come black screen
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [W.I.P]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 03, 2013, 08:48:18 AM
Quote from: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 02, 2013, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Sam Flintham on December 01, 2013, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Lo_Bianco_98 on December 01, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cory_bro on December 01, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
...it does work?

no by my don´t work it
What is the problem?
when i change the engin to ica than come black screen
When i release the new update tomorrow, overwrite all of the files and see if that helps  ;D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 04, 2013, 06:34:14 AM
BETA 2 RELEASED!  ;D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oppolo on December 04, 2013, 10:25:45 AM
what are the differences with a F100?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 04, 2013, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: oppolo on December 04, 2013, 10:25:45 AM
what are the differences with a F100?
Torque curve and rev range is a bit different
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oppolo on December 04, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
the engine seizes at 18000 rpm carb 2 and wheater 20 degress, is it wanted?

the engine heating should be adjusted, I can't keep the opt temp even with radiator cover at 60
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oliver on December 04, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
the engine goes to the damage on a long straight :(
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oppolo on December 04, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: oliver on December 04, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
the engine goes to the damage on a long straight :(

this happens also in F100 if we have a wrong carb and don't use choke for cooling the engine. but I was asking if it is normal in a ICA 100 to seize at 18000 and carb 2, it's not a problem of heating. or due to the fact the engine is always too cool, maybe Piboso has modeled the damage also for to much cooled engines?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 04, 2013, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: oppolo on December 04, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: oliver on December 04, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
the engine goes to the damage on a long straight :(

this happens also in F100 if we have a wrong carb and don't use choke for cooling the engine. but I was asking if it is normal in a ICA 100 to seize at 18000 and carb 2, it's not a problem of heating. or due to the fact the engine is always too cool, maybe Piboso has modeled the damage also for to much cooled engines?
I will try update the engine temperature physics soon to try and fix this
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oppolo on December 05, 2013, 12:10:31 AM
with carb 4 and weather 20 degrees the engine reaches 19500 RPM without problems, the RPM indicator should be increase at 20000?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 05, 2013, 01:38:55 AM
Quote from: oppolo on December 05, 2013, 12:10:31 AM
with carb 4 and weather 20 degrees the engine reaches 19500 RPM without problems, the RPM indicator should be increase at 20000?
Ica engines ususally rev up to 19.500 , I tested it with carb 4
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: GhostriderPl on December 05, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
In real Life a IC-A Engine goes to 19700rpm and you don't use choke because you damage the Reed Valves.

Choke is only used in FormulaA and SuperA.

I like the Mod, but the Sound is to "low" in my opinion. This engine should "scream" at 19000+rpm.

And the Power underneath 10000rpm is very low and kicks in then with full Power in real (more extreme in FormulaA +SuperA).

I hope that you aren't angry on me, but I post what I feel, because I drive in IC-A, FormulaA, SuperA  and FormulaC in the 90's  ;)


Keep on mate. :) I think every Information is helpful.


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: oppolo on December 05, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
so it should be disable the choke and the engine should run at 19700 without damage

what engine torque curve have you used? is there a link?
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 05, 2013, 01:08:55 PM
Quote from: GhostriderPl on December 05, 2013, 12:54:40 PM
In real Life a IC-A Engine goes to 19700rpm and you don't use choke because you damage the Reed Valves.

Choke is only used in FormulaA and SuperA.

I like the Mod, but the Sound is to "low" in my opinion. This engine should "scream" at 19000+rpm.

And the Power underneath 10000rpm is very low and kicks in then with full Power in real (more extreme in FormulaA +SuperA).

I hope that you aren't angry on me, but I post what I feel, because I drive in IC-A, FormulaA, SuperA  and FormulaC in the 90's  ;)


Keep on mate. :) I think every Information is helpful.


Greetings, GhostriderPL
Thanks for the input it really helps towards the mod, with the sounds I am always working on them
To give the engine that scream, and it is currently using f100 torque curve. Birel-Rotax 42 is currently making the ica torque curve, should be updated within 2-3 days with a more authentic feel  ;D
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: GhostriderPl on December 05, 2013, 01:54:31 PM
Quote from: oppolo on December 05, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
so it should be disable the choke and the engine should run at 19700 without damage

what engine torque curve have you used? is there a link?

Some guys used the choke. But they don't know that it damages the Reed Valves. And we use different Reed Valves. You have thin ones and thick ones. (0.15mm up to 1mm). And it makes a big difference.

@Mod Makers  ;) : We used different distance piece (right word?) between the Outlet and the Pipe (more Power from lower rpm's to more Power at Higher rpm's).

Such a little Powerful engine, but so many things to Setup it right.  :)


Greetings, GhostriderPL


Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Sodikart on December 05, 2013, 05:03:29 PM
You you can also open a little gas when you're braking and the engine will not have damage !!!!
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Arnage on January 05, 2014, 10:30:09 PM
How do I keep the engine from siezing?I choke it in the corners, and have no cover on the radiator. Other than that, I love this mod. Onr of my fsvorites. Kee up the good work!
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: iVersOne on March 20, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
Hello ICA Maxter Does'nt work on KRP Beta 10b ? I install , but he don't appear on KRP ... =/
Title: Re: ICA Maxter 100cc [Beta 2]
Post by: Tr!st@n on May 29, 2014, 08:28:25 PM
Really good work, like to drive it.