Installation
Download the latest .zip and extract directly to your KRP directory.
Download Version 0.14 (http://www.mediafire.com/?itm5tqyni7a2k31)
Changelog
0.14
- Updated for beta 9 compatibility
- Slight engine inertia tweak
- Slight torque curve tweak
- Adjusted intake and carberation settings
- Readjusted ballast settings
- Switched graphical model to F100
0.13
- Fixed wet tyre issue by adding another slick compound
- Raised rev limiter to 16000 rpm
0.12
- Fixed issue causing the engine to seize at the rev limiter
0.11
- Fixed issue causing CRG and Birel to be unplayable
To do
- Match torque curve to real dyno reading
- Update graphical model (under progress by LauZzZn (http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=2845.0))
- Further refine engine inertia setting
- Readjust temperature and radiator parameters to match real life
Nice work! ;D so do i just paste the all the extracted folders into C:/Program Files(x86)/Kart Racing Pro ? ???
Yep, then just select the X30 class in game. It's designed to be like Leopard Light as raced over here. :)
Quote from: Nathan Dunnett on April 12, 2013, 11:16:44 AM
Yep, then just select the X30 class in game. It's designed to be like Leopard Light as raced over here. :)
im having problems when i tryed it the setup came up with heaps of ? ? ? ? ? and i could'nt change it and when i went on track i just got a black screen? :o never had this problem before
Which chassis?
Edit: nevermind I see now, the CRG and Birel don't work. Just try the Tony Kart for now while I try to fix it.
Edit 2: I found the problem, 0.11 is uploading now, I'll update the OP with the new version when it's done. :)
is it possible for you to put up a zip file or something because i try to download winrar but my secrurity protection software doesnt like it?
I tried a .zip version but it was taking a really long time to verify with MediaFire so I tried .rar. I'll have another try for you. ;)
cheers man, thank you :)
Okay, updated it to a .zip. :)
when you make a x30 junior i make a model for you. i make junior model but you know its the same as senior.same for sounds i can record them
Quote from: LauZzZn on April 12, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
when you make a x30 junior i make a model for you. i make junior model but you know its the same as senior.same for sounds i can record them
Do you mean the 60cc version, or the same engine with a restrictor plate?
junior and senior x30 are the same engine just with bigger exhaust and front brake(and weight). so i make the x30 junior engine with 125ccm and u use it for junior and senior because it looks the same ;)
Ok, well if you can get me a dyno sheet and total kart weight for the junior configuration I can do that pretty easily. Do they use the same tyres?
the engine is exactly the same i give you a dyno if i can get one but shouldnt be hard to get one. weight is 145kg and the tyres are the same(here in germany). sound i can record,too.
Ok cool, if you can get me graphical model, dyno sheet and sound recordings that would be great. :)
It blows up when ever I hit the limiter
in x30 you never drive in the limiter. at the max. rpm you must be 100rpm under the limiter of 16.000 then you have the perfect speed and power
I want a tuned x30 can i?, max 17,000 rpm more cv than normal? :P lol
The rev limiter is 15800 as per AKA regulations, but I've bounced off the limiter a few times and still haven't blown up yet. What carb settings are you using?
I thought the rev limiter is 16000 in Australia? But yes I race in Australia. I tried all carby settings and same happened for all. Sat on the limiter for about .7 of a second then blew
in germany the limiter is 16.000 but sometimes when you have a to big gear wheels you can get up to 16.200 and loosing your chain upto 16.500 :D i had 16.500 when i lost my chain at european championship at mariembourg haha :D
Nope, the green CDI unit supplied with both the X30 and the RL from Remo is limited to 15800 rpm. I looked into your issue, seems to be a problem for the CRG and Birel only. I don't know why, they both use the same engine files, but I'll have a look and see if I can find something.
Edit: now I'm getting the same problem in the Tony Kart, don't know what the hell is going on but at least now it's consistent across the three. Should be an easy fix from here.
Edit 2: Fixed the problem, updated OP with the new version. You can now bounce off the limiter all day with 0 carb in any of the three karts. Ideally though, you would use 5 carb and set the gearing to rev to just under the limiter. :)
i make a picture of my laptimer and send it to you with more then 15800
I'll bet you $100 that you're not running the AKA20 CDI module that we have to run in Australia. ;)
LauZzZn, in Australia it's different to the way you run it. Nathan is making the engine to the current specs of the Australian Karting Association.
SOOOOO NIIIICEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
thank you for that...
Why not international rules? This is game is not only for Australian people -.- its sounds to arrogant
Well I initially made this just for myself so I used Australian rules, if it's really that big of a deal I can up the limiter in the next version.
Which tyres are the best?
MG FZ are slicks, MG WZ are wets.
Both are slicks for me ???
Woops, I messed that up. Had to add another compound to fix that. New version is in the OP.
MG FZ (Yellow) = Soft
MG AZ (Red) = Hard
MG WZ (White) = Wet
Great job Dude !
The look on the engine is on progress ?
hey you want to make this for the Yamaha and I'll do the J model
In Argentina the limit of RPM is 16.500 on ICC Sudam.
evo those are great news :))
Quote from: Loris on April 13, 2013, 04:11:13 PM
Great job Dude !
The look on the engine is on progress ?
I don't know how to do 3D, but LauZzZn has agreed to make the 3D model if I make a junior version too. :)
Quote from: EVO on April 13, 2013, 05:53:08 PM
hey you want to make this for the Yamaha and I'll do the J model
Sure I can do that, if you've got the dyno files just PM them to me otherwise I'll just get some next time I go to my engine builder. The handling won't be realistic for the J until we can change the tyres
great work nathan! absolutely love it!
why is it a KF3 Engine???
Quote from: F.Alonso on April 14, 2013, 09:33:16 AM
why is it a KF3 Engine???
could you please read a thread before asking a stupid question?
okay sorry :-\ :-\
I haven't got a 3D model for it, it looks like a KF3 but it isn't. ;)
really good job, its very fun to drive and it does take the kerbs well. Do you know when this new class will have stats in the stats list?
Not sure, I think that is out of my control unfortunately.
okay, how much slower is this then a KF1 just im running about half a second to a second slower depending on the track?
About 0.4-0.8 for me depending on the track.
okay thanks, thats about the same as me then :)
Some specs.. ;)
i dont need that i got that engine at home ;)
the X30 is the KF1 bottom end with the ICA topend. good mix. longevity and performance.. One you make this in 3d you easily do the Sudam. Same cylinder and head, but different, more simple bottom end.
X30 engine head is very different from the KF1, the KF1 has six screws and cylinder head is round, while the X30 has only four screws and its head is square, as is the cylinder
i was comparing the X30 and the sudam
(http://www.tsracing.com/estore/images/X30Tag300.jpg)vs(http://www.kartmotor.com.br/web/Fotos/Noticias/THUMB_125690445995.jpg)
Make Sudam model much better with that model u can make many engines ( X30 Senior , X30 Junior , Sudam , REEDJET ).Or im wrong?
I agree with Eslotes +1 ;)
Quote from: Eslotes on April 21, 2013, 09:10:50 AM
Make Sudam model much better with that model u can make many engines ( X30 Senior , X30 Junior , Sudam , REEDJET ).Or im wrong?
Ultimately it wouldn't make a difference, for each of those engines he would still need to model a different bottom end. The X30 is the first engine on the list though, and it's also an engine that he owns, so it will be done first and if anyone can get dyno sheets for the Sudam or whatever other engine, I can make the KRP files as long as someone is willing to do the 3D work.
I can do the bortom end to problem
Umm evo what happend to the kt100 s
Find your answer there
Hi, I extract the .rar folder to my KRP directory and it doesn't show up in game? And I tried driving on KF3 but it definitely wasn't an X30...I also tried joining the X30 hotlaps server but it said I had the wrong category. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks
Make sure it didn't get extracted into a new folder inside your KRP directory. You should see a folder named 'engines', a folder named 'karts', but not a folder named 'IAME X30 0.13' for example. ;)
Yeah, when I extract it, it says there is the engines and karts folder (when in WinRAR), then when I access the actual KRP directory, they aren't there? Then I extract it again and it says the files are already there. I don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong that's why I'm so confused. :( but thanks :)
leave your teamviewe and soon one does it for you lol
Quote from: sthompson92 on April 28, 2013, 07:31:48 AM
Yeah, when I extract it, it says there is the engines and karts folder (when in WinRAR), then when I access the actual KRP directory, they aren't there? Then I extract it again and it says the files are already there. I don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong that's why I'm so confused. :( but thanks :)
Maybe double check it's the right directory you're extracting to? I'm not sure, sounds quite weird.
I worked it out, got it working! :D
I must say this is a superb job, well done :) I love driving the X30 around Rye House :) feels so good to drive :)
Loved the X30 although I had some difficulty adapting to it.
I was always losing it's rear and spinning, until dibu posted a setup for Lonato which I used as a base for every track and started to alter it's settings from there.
I made my best laps with it, so are you sure it's slower than the KF1? Doesn't look that way to me :)
Anyway, that was an awesome job and I hope that you make some more engines.
5 stars
i try to make the pictures of my engine exhaust and carburetor next weekend and try to import it with 123D catch into 3ds and then edit it as good as possible
I was slower with it when I did initial testing but since then I've matched my times that I can do in KF1, I think I need to adjust the torque curve at high revs to be a little lower because it is faster to bounce off the limiter for me which isn't realistic. It drives quite differently to the other KRP karts so it definitely needs a different setup and driving style. Glad to see you like it. :D
Sounds good LauZzZn, I think I'll release the next version once you have the 3D files ready and beta 9 is out, hopefully PiBoSo unlocks tyres for us. ;)
look in the x30 3d model thread i started now ;)
looking good LauZzZn :)
I would like to try this kart but the game freezes
yeah, i'm having that problem too with the beta 9
It's only compatible with beta 8, you'll have to either reinstall the older version or wait for the update. I plan on updating once I've tested all the default KRP karts then mess around with tyre selection and ballast again. Hopefully I can also get a proper dyno sheet, and maybe even actual engine 3D models however I don't know how far along LauZzZn is so that might have to wait for the next version. I hope to have the next version out within a week or two. ;)
Nathan, how's the progress of your x30 for the beta 9?
I'd love to race with it again :)
I haven't done much really, I haven't even driven a sim at all for nearly a month. I'll fix up what I do have tonight and upload it ASAP. ;)
All updated and uploaded, the new link is in the OP. I'm not totally sure what the handling is like as I don't have a wheel set up at the moment, I just used the ballast and tyre settings I was experimenting with shortly after b9 was released. From what I remember it was pretty good, but I can easily make changes if need be. Old setups will most likely now be redundant, sorry guys. :D
alright :)
glad to know it's working.
I'm gonna try it right away :)
http://grabcad.com/library/iame-x30-1
3d model of the x30
HOLY ****!!!! THAT IS AMAZING
Wow, awesome find. I'm gonna ask him if we can use it. :D
Quote from: Nathan Dunnett on July 21, 2013, 04:05:54 AM
Wow, awesome find. I'm gonna ask him if we can use it. :D
I was just poking around looking 4 the comer 80cc and found this. :) ;D 8)
Quote from: jd88x89 on July 20, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
http://grabcad.com/library/iame-x30-1
3d model of the x30
We must use that one!!!
Good news guys!
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8865/e07v.jpg)
As far as I can tell now we just need the exhaust, airbox, water pump and radiator hoses. It's times like these I wish I knew what I was doing with 3D stuff.
he has also done the rad http://grabcad.com/library/iame-x30-intercooler-1 (http://grabcad.com/library/iame-x30-intercooler-1) he is one good 3d artist :)
wow those models are beautiful. I think ill download and import to KRP if now one else is going to. Laurents are you doing this? IF you are I just want the head portion for the sudam
the model is insanely detailed many things would have to be eliminated or simplified to run smooth in KRP
(http://i43.tinypic.com/e0sj8z.jpg)
guess that engine, I can also make the Sudam or reedjet with that top end
This engine is absolutely amazing. If only I could join in an open dedicated server with the X30 kart...
Any news on the 3D model for the engine?
I haven't heard anything. Hopefully LauZzZn can let us know.
In other news, should have a proper dyno sheet to plug in for the next release in the near future. :)
Quote from: Nathan Dunnett on September 04, 2013, 10:34:25 AM
I haven't heard anything. Hopefully LauZzZn can let us know.
In other news, should have a proper dyno sheet to plug in for the next release in the near future. :)
i got the 3d model of the engine but its very high poly.. i have no idea how to get less polys.. also texturing i havent looked at it exactly how he made it but it could be also very difficult
open the model in 3ds max press number 7 for poly count. Then use then do this
http://mycreativedaddy.com/how-to-reduce-polygon-count-in-3ds-max-easily/
you can delete all the little nuts on the sides of the engine. and small high detailed objects can be deleted.
Any News on This?
I haven't heard anything about graphical models, and the guy who was going to give me dyno sheets never got back to me.
i reduced the engine as much as possible
you can delete the nuts in the engine. the fittings for the hoses. the starter gear, sprocket, some carb detail, the small electric cables. and anything else small and highly detailed. Your going to need to put the spark plug wire back.
i was just wondering if we are going to see an updated version of this mod with the engine model? :)
If there is enough demand I'll update the physics side of the mod again. As for the model, unless someone can step up and get it in game it's just going to stay as is. LauZzZn seems to have lost interest.
I think that would be because he no longer races this engine
Quote from: Nathan Dunnett on February 16, 2014, 12:55:20 PM
If there is enough demand I'll update the physics side of the mod again. As for the model, unless someone can step up and get it in game it's just going to stay as is. LauZzZn seems to have lost interest.
i havent lost interest but i got not that much time currently. give me some time
Quote from: LauZzZn on February 16, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
i havent lost interest but i got not that much time currently. give me some time
That's fair enough but it's been 4 months since you last posted about it and 10 months since you first said you would make it.
Does this mod still work with the latest beta? I haven't used KRP for a while.
Would be awesome to have this mod complete but i understand how we all have limited time :)
any news on this? the x30 mod would be awesome
sam