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Title: Formula TKM
Post by: Jommy45 on March 24, 2013, 11:18:38 PM
TKM is one of the most popular classes in the UK, it is roughly the same as the f100, but the f100 and kf3 sound the same
TKM is also air cooled rather than water cooled, rev up to 16,500, direct drive

would love to get this into krp as it is such a popular and well known class in the uk
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: skithepowder on March 28, 2013, 01:52:26 PM
I agree, would be an excellent addition.
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on March 28, 2013, 08:51:56 PM
why not. http://www.mattenglandracing.co.uk/FormulaTKM.php
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 11:59:42 AM
does somebody know where I can find the torque curve of the BT82 extreme 20 BHP? http://www.tal-ko.com/bt82.html
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Nathan Dunnett on June 13, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
If someone is willing to do the 3D work and we can get access to a dyno file I don't see why we can't make this happen. :)
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
yep, it would be great
I'm trying a f100 chassis with a 20 BHP engine with a fantasy torque curve with max torque at 10500, but there is to model the aircooled system, 50 degrees is not real. apart the engine there are others problems: TKM rules don't allow bars and there only 1 rear axle http://www.tal-ko.com/PDF/FormulaTKM2StrokeRegs2013.pdf
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Nathan Dunnett on June 13, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
We can sorta model air cooling right now, the biggest problem is that the starting temperature is always optimum, so if optimum temp is 180 degrees that's where the engine starts out of the pits in KRP.
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
I'm trying to use the 3D of mini60 engine in the f100 chassis, but...where is the file for changing position?, I thought it was sfx.cfg but never matter what values i put there

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/screen001_zps6c2e0605.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/kirkkonummi/media/screen001_zps6c2e0605.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Eslotes on June 13, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
hahaha nice one apoolo
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: fdg1997 on June 13, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
Front wheel drive xD
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
yes, I'm so proud of that  :P

sfx.cfg is for sound, nah, I don't understand where are coordinates....ffffffffffffffff
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan Dunnett on June 13, 2013, 04:10:06 PM
We can sorta model air cooling right now, the biggest problem is that the starting temperature is always optimum, so if optimum temp is 180 degrees that's where the engine starts out of the pits in KRP.

in your opinion, for this kind of engine, what could be the optimal temp? and the range min-max? thanks
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Nathan Dunnett on June 14, 2013, 07:56:03 AM
No idea, optimum is probably somewhere between 150-200. Someone who races this class should have a better idea about it.
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Piers Prior on June 14, 2013, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: oppolo on June 13, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
I'm trying to use the 3D of mini60 engine in the f100 chassis, but...where is the file for changing position?, I thought it was sfx.cfg but never matter what values i put there

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z226/kirkkonummi/screen001_zps6c2e0605.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/kirkkonummi/media/screen001_zps6c2e0605.jpg.html)
that is a good effort haha sorry i cant help
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on June 14, 2013, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Hispinkness Prior on June 14, 2013, 10:17:43 AM
that is a good effort haha sorry i cant help
;D
so, I guess the position of the engine should be written in some "edf" file, and for a specific chassis. I don't know how to open edf file.
here should answer guys making new 3D engines

...and I can't also find a dyno for the Tal-ko BT52 115 cc. 20BHP  :(
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on August 04, 2013, 12:51:16 AM
someone has some measures for the BT82?
cylinder head width, cylinder height, crankcase?
http://www.tal-ko.com/PDF/BT82EngineFiche.pdf
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Jommy45 on October 02, 2013, 01:01:58 AM
Im going to just have a guess that TKM engines run somewhere between 140 and 180 degrees celcius, just a guess but shouldnt be too far off :)
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on October 02, 2013, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: Jommy45 on October 02, 2013, 01:01:58 AM
Im going to just have a guess that TKM engines run somewhere between 140 and 180 degrees celcius, just a guess but shouldnt be too far off :)

I have already done the physic, for what KRP allows, of the TKM, it is included here http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=2974.0
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Sam Flintham on October 15, 2013, 06:38:54 AM
would this 3d model be good?  :o http://grabcad.com/library/bt29-racing-engine
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Jommy45 on November 13, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Looks like a great engine model :)
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: oppolo on November 20, 2013, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: Sam Flintham on October 15, 2013, 06:38:54 AM
would this 3d model be good?  :o http://grabcad.com/library/bt29-racing-engine

it would be suitable, but I have any skill for grafic
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Taddzy on December 21, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
guys has there been any progress on starting this up ? would make me so happy to see a tkm on krp as it is what i drive
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Sam Flintham on December 21, 2013, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: maxt35 on December 21, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
guys has there been any progress on starting this up ? would make me so happy to see a tkm on krp as it is what i drive
Sorry to say but the 3d model won't import properly so no progress sorry
Title: Re: Formula TKM
Post by: Taddzy on February 17, 2014, 01:18:05 PM
shame