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General => Suggestions and wishlist => Topic started by: ICEMANSA250 on October 05, 2011, 04:29:27 PM

Title: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: ICEMANSA250 on October 05, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
You have three 2 Stroke Engine but no 4 Stroke. Could please build for the final Version a 4 Stroke Engine

http://www.kartweb.com/TechArt/New_Product_2002/Biland/mounted.JPG

this for example is nearly as fast as the KS1 and a little bit faster than the KC1 the engine is without shifting and i think it would be better for the game

greetz ICEMAN
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: Luca VT250 on October 05, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
*1
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: ChristianT-Z on October 07, 2011, 03:02:26 AM

+1 :)
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: Eslotes on October 07, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
-1
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: nmpcs on November 02, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
yeah. 4 stroke engine karts would be a nice add.
It would be appealing to a wider range of players.
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: The Iceman Marco on November 02, 2011, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: nmpcs on November 02, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
yeah. 4 stroke engine karts would be a nice add.
It would be appealing to a wider range of players.

You're completely right!
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 03, 2011, 01:42:10 AM
I thought the kc1 was a four stroke its heavy like one.  just kidding

a fourstroke would be an interesting addition and bring more players like said.  Also the distinct sound of the four-stroke and pop when letting of the throttle would be a nice change from the whine of the 2 strokes.

+1
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: The Iceman Marco on November 03, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
+1
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: nmpcs on November 04, 2011, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: evo1087 on November 03, 2011, 01:42:10 AM
I thought the kc1 was a four stroke its heavy like one.  just kidding

a fourstroke would be an interesting addition and bring more players like said.  Also the distinct sound of the four-stroke and pop when letting of the throttle would be a nice change from the whine of the 2 strokes.

+1
:)
+1
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 08, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
what engine? Biland?
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 09, 2011, 03:11:48 PM
Quote from: evo1087 on November 08, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
what engine? Biland?
yes it is the Biland.
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 09, 2011, 03:47:22 PM
Does anyone own this enigine and give me the photos and measurements i would need to make a 3d model
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 09, 2011, 04:28:48 PM
the engine isn't build anymore.
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 09, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
http://www.swissauto.com/d/motor/projekt_galerie.jsp?ID_Display=20000I
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: Luca VT250 on November 09, 2011, 09:12:38 PM
http://www.gmengines.net/Immagini/250_Big.jpg
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 09, 2011, 10:15:01 PM
thats a Biland?
Someone that has the engine can post photos from each angle and overall dimensions should be enough.
detail photos too
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 15, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
http://www.kartweb.com/TechArt/New_Product_2002/Biland/front.JPG
http://www.kartweb.com/TechArt/New_Product_2002/Biland/left.JPG
http://www.kartweb.com/TechArt/New_Product_2002/Biland/right.JPG
http://www.kartweb.com/TechArt/New_Product_2002/Biland/mtd_frt.JPG
http://www.google.nl/imgres?q=biland+engine&um=1&hl=nl&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official&biw=1600&bih=796&tbm=isch&tbnid=G769xImOpOqKHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.tagaustralia.com.au/engines.html&docid=-UBTRBZo60JWLM&imgurl=http://www.tagaustralia.com.au/images/biland_engine.jpg&w=140&h=112&ei=uIXCTvflLI6M-wals6n9DQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=297&sig=116062493300115091187&page=1&tbnh=89&tbnw=112&start=0&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=62&ty=22
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: PiBoSo on November 21, 2011, 04:49:40 PM

Which chassis are used with 250 4t engines?
Are there dedicated ones?
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 21, 2011, 04:57:53 PM
No, you can choose yourself wich one you want.
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: PiBoSo on November 21, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
Then would it be ok to have a new category with the current KRP chassis but with different engine physics, sound and model?
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: Aritz on November 21, 2011, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on November 21, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
Then would it be ok to have a new category with the current KRP chassis but with different engine physics, sound and model?

Yes.

As you say, different physics for this engine; the kart must be harder to turn (+ weight) and better slow RPM torque (4 stroke).
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 21, 2011, 08:59:00 PM
Piboso are you going to make the engine i thought i would make your life easier and give it a shot. 
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: PiBoSo on November 21, 2011, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: evo1087 on November 21, 2011, 08:59:00 PM
Piboso are you going to make the engine

That's the plan.
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: nmpcs on November 21, 2011, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on November 21, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
Then would it be ok to have a new category with the current KRP chassis but with different engine physics, sound and model?
It would be awsome :)
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 22, 2011, 12:49:56 AM
Official
http://www.swissauto.com/e/motor/projekt_detail.jsp?ID_Display=20000I
http://www.swissauto250.eu/Midden_Specifications.htm
(http://u.jimdo.com/www15/o/secf7c4ee5d543295/img/iec9f4ee7df714c5c/1279243815/std/moteur-swiss-auto-250.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/1231h50.jpg)

High res photos
http://www.swissauto250.eu/Gallery.htm
Homologation
www.bridgestonecup.com/docs/2010/swissauto-250-homologation-ffsa-2010.pdf
Spare Parts with drawings
www.swissauto.com/swissauto-webseite/uploadfiles/EN_2000HM.pdf
Manual
www.swissauto.com/swissauto-webseite/.../EN_2000HW.pdf
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 22, 2011, 05:45:37 AM
hope this helps
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: laraarsa on November 22, 2011, 10:20:52 AM
horsepower:35hp@9.500rpm
torque:28Nm@ 8.000rpm
type:1Cylinder 4-stroke engine with balance shaft
valve train: DOHC on roller Bearings, 4valves/cylinder
compression ratio:12,5:1
Lubrication system: integrated dry sump with nikasil coating.
Piston:forged aluminium.
coolsystem:watercooled, integrated waterpump
ignition: digital ECT with rev limiter(13.000 rpm)
starter: Electric started
weight about 26 kg, includes oil and water
Title: Re: 4 Stroke Engine
Post by: EVO on November 22, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
weighs less than Rotax max i discrovered