Guys, I think it would be great to make a review of the wheels that we tested or have, so it might be hepful for other people.
So I'll start with the Trustmaster Ferrari GT experience 3 in 1.
(http://imagens.extra.com.br/Control/ArquivoExibir.aspx?IdArquivo=5288070)
Some features:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
180º vibration 2 yes paddles no PS2, PS3, PC
Overall opinion:
It has a good feeling for a non FFB wheel and seems well constructed.
The pedals although they are made of plastic, look quite resistant and almost cannot be pressed by hand. (the brake is even stiffer).
As for the paddles, the clicks when you shift gears were gone after some use although they still work fine.
The steering wheel comes with a mounting clamp for use on a table.
The best wheel for krp is the g27, I have others including fanatec csr but the ffb is better on the g27.
Quote from: maxrod on December 06, 2012, 09:23:48 AM
The best wheel for krp is the g27, I have others including fanatec csr but the ffb is better on the g27.
make a review of it :)
So here goes another one.
Logitech driving force
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/6916361-2-440-overview-1.gif)
Some features:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
180º FFB 2 yes paddles no PS2, PS3, PC
Overall opinion:
I like the feeling of it's FFB and it's quite strong.
The wheel seems robust and the paddles have a nice feeling although it makes no click when you press it, so you know that you shifted when you pressed it to the end.
The wheel is a bit noisy when turned rapidly.
The pedals are not very good, although they are pressure sensitive. You can press them with your finger, so when you use your feet you have to be a bit careful because it seems that could brake easily. (I don't know if that would happen, because I'm always careful)
The clamps integrated on the wheel are a very nice and practical way to mount it in any table, even in a bit rounded one.
The bottom of the clamps have an adjustable piece, so you can have it mounted a bit forward on one side and a little backward on the other, so if your table is a bit rounded you can still use it there.
The wheel has a USB connection and was originally for PS2, but it works fine on PC. I downloaded Logitech's gaming sofware drivers and it's working great on my windows 7 x86
Quote from: nmpcs on December 06, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
So here goes another one.
Logitech driving force
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/6916361-2-440-overview-1.gif)
Some features:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
180º FFB 2 yes paddles no PS2, PS3, PC
Overall opinion:
I like the feeling of it's FFB and it's quite strong.
The wheel seems robust and the paddles have a nice feeling although it makes no click when you press it, so you know that you shifted when you pressed it to the end.
The wheel is a bit noisy when turned rapidly.
The pedals are not very good, although they are pressure sensitive. You can press them with your finger, so when you use your feet you have to be a bit careful because it seems that could brake easily. (I don't know if that would happen, because I'm always careful)
The clamps integrated on the wheel are a very nice and practical way to mount it in any table, even in a bit rounded one.
The bottom of the clamps have an adjustable piece, so you can have it mounted a bit forward on one side and a little backward on the other, so if your table is a bit rounded you can still use it there.
The wheel has a USB connection and was originally for PS2, but it works fine on PC. I downloaded Logitech's gaming sofware drivers and it's working great on my windows 7 x86
yes it is very noisy the wheel i thought it was just mine but probably not now as ive seen you have same prob, yes pedals are a bit of an issue i have to have my brakes between 50% and 55% so i dont brake them but its still fine works like any other wheel
I keep my pedals at 100% because I don't step on them too hard.
It's a question of being a bit careful and geting used to them. :)
I can make the same times with this wheel and the Ferrari one (who has much better pedals) :)
Recently I tried this wheel:
NGS Coupé
(http://www.inforpascoa.pt/media/image/MMNGSCOUPE.jpg)
Some features:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
180º vibration 2 no paddles no PS2, PS3, PC
Overall opinion:
The wheel it's not ergonomic at all. It's so lifted up that it seems that we're driving a truck...
In terms of precision driving it's awful, I mean you just can´t play any simulation game with it.
The paddles inicially do the same as the pedals, so if you're driving with auto gears you don't need the pedals at all. (who would want that?)
You need to configure them to be able to use them properly, but once it's been done, the feeling of changing gears is quite nice.
The pedals are not pressure sensitive, so you can imagine playing Kart Racing Pro with it.... here comes a corner...brake....turn....spin.... xD
For me the botom line is that this wheel seems more like a toy and is not for any players who like simulation games
Quote from: nmpcs on December 06, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
I keep my pedals at 100% because I don't step on them too hard.
It's a question of being a bit careful and geting used to them. :)
I can make the same times with this wheel and the Ferrari one (who has much better pedals) :)
I use garrot for my left pedal of Driving Force GT, because it is slight...
Well,my turn I guess^^ Today got my first wheel- Thrustmaster Ferrari F430 with FFB.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDcV6_Naq2sRtO2vUMS0YFy1oZ2CkXF6qx1TzpLVbH8nvCbU2E)
Features:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
270º FFB 2 yes paddles no PC
Overall opinion:
It is amazing wheel.The FFB is quite good,and really strong.The set has 3 axis(2 for pedals and 1 for wheel).The pedals are pressure sensitive and really stiff,they are like the ones in cars,and they also have metal on them,not 100% plastic.The paddles are completely made of metal and is almost impossible to break them,also very comfortable.The wheel has 270* rotation,and has a rubber on it,which makes it more and more comfortable,heh.Really good wheel.
You bought an awsome wheel and I'm sure you would prefer it to the others that you had talked about.
Have some fun with it :)
Here's my New wheel the Logitech G27:
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift | Handbrake | Compatibility |
up to 900º FFB 3 Yes Paddles and Gear stick No PC
Overall opinion: Great wheel, I love the Force Feedback and it does'nt take alot to setup. its fun to play with the Gearstick like your in a real car, i think the G27 might need more buttons on the wheel. I like the steel peddles and how the brake and clutch are a bit hard to press like in a real car, i also like the steel Shift Paddles there great to play with and i use them in the shifter kart. the rev lights on the wheel are cool and realistic but not compatible with some games sadly.
Awsome :)
One thing I think manufacturers are forgetting about is the handbrake.
I've seen footage of people that buy the G25/G27 and then adapt a real handbrake to it by opening the gear stick and welding some wires.
It would be nice to just buy one wheel with that (but a good handbrake, not plastic ones that brake easily like I had in my past wheels from Logic 3 and Skream)
Here's my review of Logitech G27:
It's VERY, VERY, VEEEERRY GOOD! ;)
Quote from: Alex10 on December 24, 2012, 06:26:08 PM
Here's my review of Logitech G27:
It's VERY, VERY, VEEEERRY GOOD! ;)
;D
im getting my fanatec csr with csr elite pedals in just over a week and will upload a short review after that :)
I'm not that much of a writer, so no proper review from me I'm afraid. But I have experience with both Logitech G25 and Thrustmaster T500 RS in KRP, and imo T500 beats G25 hands down in every way. G25 (and G27, as it's pretty much the same wheel) is good wheel but not even close to same level with T500. Belt drive is the way to go nowdays imo.
I've seen some very nice reviews of the T500 although I've never tried it.
The wheel's rotation angle is 1080 degrees and the pedals seems awsome too (I know you can position them in 2 diferent ways).
But the g27 doesn't lack the gear shifter.
Quote from: nmpcs on January 03, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
I've seen some very nice reviews of the T500 although I've never tried it.
The wheel's rotation angle is 1080 degrees and the pedals seems awsome too (I know you can position them in 2 diferent ways).
But the g27 doesn't lack the gear shifter.
Yeah, lack of shifter is a small minus compared to G25/27. But Thrustmaster have very good sifter, TH8RS, you can buy separately. And that too beats G25/27 shifter in every way. So in the end T500 RS + shifter comes a bit pricey, but it's worth every penny imo. And yeah pedals are awesome, but in all fairnes Fanatec CSP seems to be even better than that. That's probably the next thing I'm gonna get. But at the moment I'm very happy with my Thrustmaster setup.
Niiice. I'd love to try one of those. I always liked Thrustmaster :)
Quote from: Pentti Hilkuri on January 03, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
But I have experience with both Logitech G25 and Thrustmaster T500 RS in KRP, and imo T500 beats G25 hands down in every way. G25 (and G27, as it's pretty much the same wheel) is good wheel but not even close to same level with T500.
I'm clad to hear that as I'm going to change my G27 and T500 is just the one that I'm interested! I have already bought the TH8RS and that's a brilliant shifter! TH8RS beats G27's plastic shifter so easily in every way. And it has not just the H-pattern but the sequential too which I use quite a lot!
Quote from: Kimzu97 on January 03, 2013, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Pentti Hilkuri on January 03, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
But I have experience with both Logitech G25 and Thrustmaster T500 RS in KRP, and imo T500 beats G25 hands down in every way. G25 (and G27, as it's pretty much the same wheel) is good wheel but not even close to same level with T500.
I'm clad to hear that as I'm going to change my G27 and T500 is just the one that I'm interested! I have already bought the TH8RS and that's a brilliant shifter! TH8RS beats G27's plastic shifter so easily in every way. And it has not just the H-pattern but the sequential too which I use quite a lot!
I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Also if you drive lots of open wheelers with paddle shifters you might want to consider getting F1 addon wheel for it. In T500 RS paddles are stationary, doesn't rotate with wheel, and are pretty impossible to use with cars that needs fast steering. I got the addon aswell and must say it's pretty awesome. Of course you can buy F1 version of T550 straight away but compare prices. For example here in Finland it was cheaper to buy T500 RS first and F1 addon for it later than to buy F1 version and then GT rim for it later. A bit stupid but that's how it was.
Quote from: Pentti Hilkuri on January 03, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Also if you drive lots of open wheelers with paddle shifters you might want to consider getting F1 addon wheel for it. In T500 RS paddles are stationary, doesn't rotate with wheel, and are pretty impossible to use with cars that needs fast steering. I got the addon aswell and must say it's pretty awesome. Of course you can buy F1 version of T500 straight away but compare prices. For example here in Finland it was cheaper to buy T500 RS first and F1 addon for it later than to buy F1 version and then GT rim for it later. A bit stupid but that's how it was.
I too have wondered that it makes more sense to buy T500 with the GT wheel first and then buy the F1 wheel as an addon.
Same prices for me as I'm Finnish too :D
Quote from: Kimzu97 on January 03, 2013, 06:48:09 PM
Same prices for me as I'm Finnish too :D
Sorry for little bit finnish:
Verkkokauppa.comissa näyttäs olevan RS tosi hyvään hintaan, tosin pitkä tomitus aika. Mä tilasin paikalliseen kodinkoneliikeeseen, sain sieltä hyvän diilin. Ja cdon.comissa oli F1 lisäri 120,-, se oli sillon paras hinta ku ite ostin.
/end of strange language. Trust me, I said nothing but good things about you all. ;)
i wish i could afford the CSW it sounds AWESOME
Quote from: Kimzu97 on January 03, 2013, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Pentti Hilkuri on January 03, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
But I have experience with both Logitech G25 and Thrustmaster T500 RS in KRP, and imo T500 beats G25 hands down in every way. G25 (and G27, as it's pretty much the same wheel) is good wheel but not even close to same level with T500.
I'm clad to hear that as I'm going to change my G27 and T500 is just the one that I'm interested! I have already bought the TH8RS and that's a brilliant shifter! TH8RS beats G27's plastic shifter so easily in every way. And it has not just the H-pattern but the sequential too which I use quite a lot!
Plastic Shifter? g27 doesnt have a plastic shifter? the paddles are all metal and the gearstick is plastic at the top but it has a metal stick.
Quote from: LIAM-36-AUS on January 03, 2013, 10:52:47 PM
Plastic Shifter? g27 doesnt have a plastic shifter? the paddles are all metal and the gearstick is plastic at the top but it has a metal stick.
Well G25/27 definately have more plastic than metal in it. And compared to TH8RS it have very plastic feel too.
Quote from: Pentti Hilkuri on January 03, 2013, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: LIAM-36-AUS on January 03, 2013, 10:52:47 PM
Plastic Shifter? g27 doesnt have a plastic shifter? the paddles are all metal and the gearstick is plastic at the top but it has a metal stick.
Well G25/27 definately have more plastic than metal in it. And compared to TH8RS it have very plastic feel too.
ive seeen much more plastic wheels then the G27, 60% Metal steering wheel, metal Paddles, metal button Pad, metal Peddles, metal gearstick stick, metal screws on Gearstick and wheel witch make it look good in my opinion. Im not saying the G27 is better then the TH8RS, Can you show us photo's and specs of it? ???
I think we were talking just about the shifter? 90% of the TH8RS is metal so definetly more than in G25/G27 shifter.
Yes G25/G27 does have metal but not so much as T500 or some more expensive ones like Fanatec ClubSport has.
Quote from: LIAM-36-AUS on January 03, 2013, 11:49:36 PM
ive seeen much more plastic wheels then the G27, 60% Metal steering wheel, metal Paddles, metal button Pad, metal Peddles, metal gearstick stick, metal screws on Gearstick and wheel witch make it look good in my opinion. Im not saying the G27 is better then the TH8RS, Can you show us photo's and specs of it? ???
Well first of all I was only talking about shifter stick part of G25/G27. Everything else is quality stuff and mostly metal, important parts anyways. But gearstick is definately not on par with other stuff. I used G25 for some years and loved it, so don't get me wrong, I'm not mocking up anything of it. I also have quite a lot experience with all kind of wheels, exept those really high end ones, so this is not fanboy talk. It's just a fact that TH8RS is way ahead compared to G25/G27 shifter unit.
Don't have camera so can't take pictures, sorry, but found you a nice review (http://www.simnewsdaily.com/index.php/insidesimracing-tv-thrustmaster-th8rs-review/) for it.
Fanatec CSR wheel with CSR elite Pedals and CSR shifters
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http://eu.fanatec.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=165
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| Rotation | Vibration or FFB | nr of pedals | Pressure sensitive pedals | Gear shift |Handbrake|Compatibility|
up to 900º Both 3 Load cell brake Sequential, H-pattern and paddles No All
I have had this wheel and pedals for just over a week now and have used them on 4 games, WRS KRP rFactor and GTR2. So far all of them have been exceptional with probably the best FFB coming from rFactor with the real feel plugin and ORSM's v8 factor mods. Having only owned my Microsoft Xbox wheel previously which had no FFB on PC this wheel was a welcome break and gives my more immersion and greater feel which has already allowed me to better some of my previous times. It took only 2-3 hours to get used to and once i was it has been a dream. Fanatec have made a brilliant wheel and i would recommend it to anyone. It is very smooth and quiet due to the belt drive system made by Fanatec. The pedals are something to behold on their own. The load cell brake makes all the difference and means i can brake later, harder for longer with more confidence and the overall quality of the pedals is phenomenal.
My overall thoughts are exceptional and it has made a huge impact on my sim racing on the whole and i would rate these products a 9/10 and only 9 because i had to make minor modifications to the pedals so i could use them in my 'rig' . Amazing products and i would recommend them to anyone. I love them.
I have the Logitech Driving Force Pro but with lots of modifications ;)
I like it but have some problems in the past so i do some modifications to it, like the mounting (now with screws) and i mounted some springs on the pedals for more feeling (because like in real i like when you must use some more force to operate them)
But all in all i have it for 6 years now and it works fine :) maybe not the best of the best but i think its not the worst ;D
Greetings, GhostriderPL
So the Logitech Driving Force Pro still has soft pedals like the older model...
That's a very good wheel... it deserved better pedals (at least stiffer ones)
i ordered the fanatec gt3 rs v2 wheel with clubsport pedals and sequential and h-shifter. i make review soon. im already loving the wheel now :D
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 14, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
i ordered the fanatec gt3 rs v2 wheel with clubsport pedals and sequential and h-shifter. i make review soon. im already loving the wheel now :D
niiice :)
Quote from: nmpcs on January 14, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: LauZzZn on January 14, 2013, 04:22:00 PM
i ordered the fanatec gt3 rs v2 wheel with clubsport pedals and sequential and h-shifter. i make review soon. im already loving the wheel now :D
niiice :)
+1
Quote from: nmpcs on January 14, 2013, 04:14:50 PM
So the Logitech Driving Force Pro still has soft pedals like the older model...
That's a very good wheel... it deserved better pedals (at least stiffer ones)
Mine hasnt it anymore ;) i replace them with Original Kart Pedals ;D i break the old ones because of too much force from my side *laugh
Greetings, GhostriderPL
;D
altough I use my wheel frequently, I tend to be careful with the pedals.
I usually don't step too hard :)
i drive more real Kart then on PC thats why i cant learn to step on the pedals with less force ;) ;D
But with the real Pedals and some other modifications this isnt a problem anymore 8) :)
Greetings, GhostriderPL
Quote from: GhostriderPl on January 17, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
i drive more real Kart then on PC thats why i cant learn to step on the pedals with less force ;) ;D
But with the real Pedals and some other modifications this isnt a problem anymore 8) :)
Greetings, GhostriderPL
ghost rider can i ask what have you done/made with your pedals what modifications have you done as i have the same wheel as you and i think the pedals are a bit weak :-\
Check this pic (http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/threads/g27-t500-or-a-fanatec.60986/page-2#post-1331685) and make your own decision wich wheel you should buy.
Fanatec have, without a doubt, better pedals but when it comes to wheel it's T500 all the way. But of course everyone makes their own decisions.