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General => Suggestions and wishlist => Topic started by: Aritz on November 03, 2011, 06:32:25 PM

Title: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 03, 2011, 06:32:25 PM
We should improve the default setup, let's do it!

Mine is in progress
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: EVO on November 04, 2011, 01:21:46 AM
i test the CRG setup almost exact i didnt work so well..
I going to try yours and compare.  what chassis di you use?  I dont know if make s a difference but just for the sake of the experiemnt
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: The Iceman Marco on November 04, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
I'll try that setup and see what happend.
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 04, 2011, 09:00:49 AM
Try with 3 or 5 caster too :)

I have an Intrepid Cruiser with no camber/caster adjust (no excentrics mounted)

My intention with this setup is to have the same steeringwheel movements as the real karts, which is low and mostly countersteers ;D


When I did the testing, I didn't know that horizontal seat position is just the opposite of I was thinking... I wanted to have a oversteered kart and I move it forward (that was what I thought at least) but it is toward...
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 04, 2011, 05:34:38 PM
I tested again the set I it is absolutely undriveable ;D

I will post my suggested default setup as soon I have it.
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: EVO on November 04, 2011, 08:05:46 PM
What chassis are you using in the game? 
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 05, 2011, 10:26:22 AM
I use CRG, but who cares? Both chassis are the same with different bumpers 8)

Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 05, 2011, 11:43:42 AM
What about this for starting? I found horizontal seat moving the key. I have a lot to test, but it changes a lot, more than the rest.

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4656/unled5sp.jpg)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1972/unled6y.jpg)
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: The Iceman Marco on November 05, 2011, 07:41:56 PM
Why differences between front and rear tire pressure? And maybe 1 cm less with the rear track width may be an idea?

I would change that and the other things are good I think.
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: EVO on November 05, 2011, 10:37:20 PM
by removing the front bar dont you take grip out of the front end increasing oversteer?
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: EVO on November 08, 2011, 07:44:47 AM
This is a very important thread lets not forget about it. 
Right now many settings are very close to real.  Almost all chassis setups appear to add grip like they should
Seat setup needs some fine turning.  In the game the balance of the kart is best with the seat moved forward.

The "other" settings are good too.  Front track should be able to be lowered more like CRG recommends.
Alot of us are lowering camber raising caster just a little bit and using almost zero toe.  This is not realisitc. Karts need toe even if just a little. And when little grip is available they use lots of caster and camber.

Is camber a setting or does it have a unit like degrees?
the value is the same for metric and imperial so im guessing its a setting.

"toe in" should be "toe out" and have a standard unit, like track width does now.

Tire realism is great now. Bridgestone the best in wet recommends 12-22 psi  cold.
Mg recommends 12-16 cold and 16-18 hot for there Wets.  Niether have a recommended temperture "varies by application"

As far as softs go our tyre pressures are correct 8 psi for hot days and prolonged use results in 2 psi increase 3 psi at most, but tempertures never reach 176-200 degreees F

I think PiBoSo knows the best about of all these parameters. its just very difficult to go from real life to virtual
With tires almost perfect now (the first step in desinging race car suspension and chasisis, knowing the tires max grip force capabilities) the rest of the setup will be tuned to perfection in no time
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: Aritz on November 08, 2011, 09:28:53 AM
We need some info from piboso:

-Best working tyre temp and pressure for soft, hard and wet (I've found 0,8 bar the best on soft, but maybe I am wrong)


And rear tyres should have "camber" aswell, not adjustable of course. But their wear is wrong like I wrote in fixes thread, they should wear like the front tyres, less but in the same way:

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5489/776fcd143e877005807fdc3.jpg)


I will try "lowering camber raising caster just a little bit and using almost zero toe" :)
Title: Re: Suggested STANDARD setup
Post by: EVO on November 08, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
I updated the tire part of my post before yours.  With my setup I can get equal wear across the rears but i cant get inside wear like i should

Schwoni should be posting here.   I will reach out to him.