The upshifting is definitely wrong with shifting help off. You have to be way more precise than in real life, and the result is that the shifts happen way slower than in real life. Downshifts are perfect without shifting help. Piboso if you need any kind of data from real life KZ2 engine, I am happy to provide that! The shifting is super irritating because the sim is so good otherwise. I check in here every day hoping for a shift patch!
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General Discussion / Re: Kart Racing Pro beta2
March 10, 2011, 03:45:54 PM
I dont know if this is the right place for this and please dont take it as bashing - I love this sim and this one flaw is so frustrating!
Played with it some more last night in attempt to better quantify. First off handling physics seem improved, as does force feedback and steering in general. I still believe the shifting needs some work however. Here are my points - some contradict my first post, in that case go with this
Without shift assist:
The timing required for the upshift seems off. In KRP I can sometimes get an upshift with a huge lift, but not always. I can practically never get an upshift by using the timing that works in real life shifter karts (a simultaneous quick small lift of the throttle and pull of the shift lever).
Downshifts are perfect without shift assist
You cannot throw the kart into gear without the clutch in order to start it while being pushed. In RL this is how it is done; the clutch is only used to launch a running kart and when coming to a stop if you dont want to kill the engine. Some guys fan the clutch off of slow corners, but not most. (By the way, the pushing feature is really cool - adds a lot to the immersion)
With shift assist: (right now driving without shift assist is basically impossible)
Upshifts are slow
Downshifts are slow and seem to take throttle control away, leaving a guessing game as to which gear you have actually selected.
Keep up the brilliant work!
-Richard
Played with it some more last night in attempt to better quantify. First off handling physics seem improved, as does force feedback and steering in general. I still believe the shifting needs some work however. Here are my points - some contradict my first post, in that case go with this
Without shift assist:
The timing required for the upshift seems off. In KRP I can sometimes get an upshift with a huge lift, but not always. I can practically never get an upshift by using the timing that works in real life shifter karts (a simultaneous quick small lift of the throttle and pull of the shift lever).
Downshifts are perfect without shift assist
You cannot throw the kart into gear without the clutch in order to start it while being pushed. In RL this is how it is done; the clutch is only used to launch a running kart and when coming to a stop if you dont want to kill the engine. Some guys fan the clutch off of slow corners, but not most. (By the way, the pushing feature is really cool - adds a lot to the immersion)
With shift assist: (right now driving without shift assist is basically impossible)
Upshifts are slow
Downshifts are slow and seem to take throttle control away, leaving a guessing game as to which gear you have actually selected.
Keep up the brilliant work!
-Richard
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General Discussion / Re: Kart Racing Pro beta2
March 08, 2011, 05:12:13 AM
Really like most of the changes. I agree with the other comments on the shifter kart. Compared to a real shifter, be it KZ or moto, the sim is extremely balky on the upshift and slow to downshift. The only real life motor i have driven that felt like this was one that the guy had put together wrong .
Everything else though is awesome!
. Everything else though is awesome!