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Title: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 25, 2020, 10:57:53 PM
Hi, I made the track outline and put the texture in it already. I need help with the grass and kerbs. Thx
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 26, 2020, 01:43:43 PM
ARI, if you are looking for tutorials, there are here:

Quote from: LauZzZn on June 29, 2016, 09:15:02 PM3DS Max Track Tutorial #3: Preparing kerbs (https://youtu.be/2MEwKBPXzKI)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #4: Creating kerbs (https://youtu.be/MiLnkg1u5Z8)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #5: Merging kerb and terrain (https://youtu.be/40-Eni3KkGU)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #6: Creating terrain (https://youtu.be/ftRfzEzK-U8)

Adding 3D grass was covered in details in this thread - http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=7763.0
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 26, 2020, 06:36:56 PM
Quote from: LXS77 on December 26, 2020, 01:43:43 PMARI, if you are looking for tutorials, there are here:

Quote from: LauZzZn on June 29, 2016, 09:15:02 PM3DS Max Track Tutorial #3: Preparing kerbs (https://youtu.be/2MEwKBPXzKI)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #4: Creating kerbs (https://youtu.be/MiLnkg1u5Z8)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #5: Merging kerb and terrain (https://youtu.be/40-Eni3KkGU)
3DS Max Track Tutorial #6: Creating terrain (https://youtu.be/ftRfzEzK-U8)

Adding 3D grass was covered in details in this thread - http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=7763.0

I saw all those tutorials, but I doesn't show how to place the grass around the track.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 26, 2020, 10:07:08 PM
What grass do you mean, mate? A simple grass texture to cover the terrain or a 3D grass, which can be switched on/off in the game?

If you're talking about the 3D grass, there is no need to do anything in 3ds Max. The grass is rendered directly to the .MAP file by PiBoSo's fbx2edf tool or his special plug-in for 3ds Max 2009/2010. The 3D blades will "grow" on your grass texture based on the settings in your_grass_texture_name.GRS file.

For details on how to add 3D grass, please refer to http://docs.piboso.com/wiki/index.php?title=Track_Creation_Guide (3D Grass section) and, as I said above, http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=7763.0
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 26, 2020, 10:23:51 PM
Quote from: LXS77 on December 26, 2020, 10:07:08 PMWhat grass do you mean, mate? A simple grass texture to cover the terrain or a 3D grass, which can be switched on/off in the game?

If you're talking about the 3D grass, there is no need to do anything in 3ds Max. The grass is rendered directly to the .MAP file by PiBoSo's fbx2edf tool or his special plug-in for 3ds Max 2009/2010. The 3D blades will "grow" on your grass texture based on the settings in your_grass_texture_name.GRS file.

For details on how to add 3D grass, please refer to http://docs.piboso.com/wiki/index.php?title=Track_Creation_Guide (3D Grass section) and, as I said above, http://forum.kartracing-pro.com/index.php?topic=7763.0

I'm not the best at explaining things, do u have discord? It would make it way easier.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 26, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: ARI on December 26, 2020, 10:23:51 PMI'm not the best at explaining things, do u have discord? It would make it way easier.

ARI, mate, you asked me the same question like 3 weeks ago. I don't do Discord. You can upload screenshots to illustrate the issue or send me a PM if you don't wish others to see your project.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 26, 2020, 11:56:26 PM
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Idont know how to place grass around this. in the tutorial he showed how to bridge the grass, but not how to place it around the track.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LauZzZn on December 28, 2020, 12:36:10 AM
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Idont know how to place grass around this. in the tutorial he showed how to bridge the grass, but not how to place it around the track.

You create it the same way as you create the kerbs!
Make a line on the edge of your track, then outline it, connect it, create a surface and it is done
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 03:02:43 AM
Thx, I'm also having an issue with exporting to .map and .trp. It says grass.tga is not to the power of 2. When I go to tracked after it finally finished exporting, only parts of the grass show up and nothing else
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 04:41:17 AM
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Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 01:10:17 PM
Before exporting to .MAP/.TRP, check the width x height of your textures.

Supported texture formats:
Every texture must have power of 2 (eg: 256, 512, 1024, 2048) dimensions. They can be rectangular (eg: 32x128)
(http://docs.piboso.com/wiki/index.php?title=Track_Creation_Guide)
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 06:54:36 PM
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I have the track complete and I exported it to .map and .trp but when I go to tracked this is all it shows. I still put it into the game and when I spawn, im underneath the map.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 07:14:10 PM
Looks like you don't have any surfaces there. Have you defined trkasph, trkgras, etc.? Have you checked that the units and scale are OK?

In TrackED, you should see something like this:
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Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 07:51:04 PM
I didn't the trk stuff but how do I do the unit and scale
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LauZzZn on December 28, 2020, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: ARI on December 28, 2020, 07:51:04 PMI didn't the trk stuff but how do I do the unit and scale
For the surfaces, check the track creation guide provided by PiBoSo in this section please.
For the size, there is a little hammer on the right side of 3ds Max. You can check the dimensions of your objects there.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 08:04:24 PM
So you haven't defined the main objects yet? Dude, without naming the surfaces properly, there's no point to do anything in Tracked, not mentioning testing the track in the game. At this stage, you can only view your .MAP file in MapView.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 08:30:41 PM
If the track length IRL is 1000m, then what should it be in 3ds max?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 08:32:50 PM
I did the trk stuff, I just realized it said didn't
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
Oh, I see, it's OK then.

The track length should be the same as IRL. Check these articles out:
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 09:48:43 PM
If the units are off, it would only show a piece of grass and nothing else when I go into tracked?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 10:08:54 PM
If the units are wrong, the track might be too small to be displayed. Have you checked the length of the track? What does the Measure Tool say?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 11:04:55 PM
998.90m
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 28, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
The track wont export to .map or trp now. I go to click on convert in fbx2edf and it crashes
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 28, 2020, 11:27:34 PM
Quote from: ARI on December 28, 2020, 11:04:55 PM998.90m
Yep, looks good.

Quote from: ARI on December 28, 2020, 11:05:46 PMThe track wont export to .map or trp now. I go to click on convert in fbx2edf and it crashes
Have you changed anything in the FBX exporter settings?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 29, 2020, 12:05:32 AM
I doesn't work with the track I just made but it works with others
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 29, 2020, 12:11:51 AM
I mean the settings for 'FBX Export' window in 3ds Max.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 29, 2020, 12:25:41 AM
where would that be?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 29, 2020, 12:49:23 AM
Mate, you can see this window everytime you export the track from 3ds Max to FBX:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/3ds-max/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2021/ENU/3DSMax-Data-Exchange/files/GUID-EB0F5BB7-2E59-4EF6-8B16-F59CC56A4747-htm.html

BTW, what settings do you have in Advanced Options there?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 29, 2020, 01:00:25 AM
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Is this it?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 29, 2020, 01:15:19 AM
Yep, that's the one, thanks... It looks alright to me. You can also select Type: ASCII in FBX File Format.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 29, 2020, 01:33:50 AM
Ok
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 29, 2020, 02:04:29 AM
It's still not letting me making .map and .trk
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 29, 2020, 02:43:09 PM
Well, it's either something wrong with your FBX file or you've done some wrong changes to the track in 3ds Max. Do you have a backup version of your project? Revert to the backup and export the FBX file from 3ds Max again.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LauZzZn on December 30, 2020, 11:12:58 AM
Quote from: ARI on December 29, 2020, 02:04:29 AMIt's still not letting me making .map and .trk
Did you actually wait a bit? The exporter always looks like crashing while converting to your desired file type. For map files it may take several minutes!
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 02:32:46 AM
The fbx2edf thing just disappears when I click covert
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 02:33:34 AM
I'm able to convert when the track is just the tarmac but the moment I do grass, it crashes when I go to convert
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 31, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: ARI on December 31, 2020, 02:33:34 AMI'm able to convert when the track is just the tarmac but the moment I do grass, it crashes when I go to convert
Can you please upload your grass texture here?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 07:14:11 PM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4wjm3abd7t5bswi/grass2.tga/file


Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
The file was too big so I sent the mediafire
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 07:16:55 PM
Would it be easier to record myself making a track and then send you link? I would just quickly do something with just tarmac and a bit of grass and it shouldn't be any longer than 15 mins.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 08:55:32 PM
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3sgr4uf2f103nae/2020-12-31_14-40-27.mp4/

I made the video anyway, its only 6 mins so can u pls watch it and tell me what im doing wrong. Thx btw for helping me for the past month lol, you've been really been helping me with 3ds.
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on December 31, 2020, 11:00:20 PM
Happy New Year to all of you, guys!!!

Quote from: ARI on December 31, 2020, 07:14:11 PMhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/4wjm3abd7t5bswi/grass2.tga/file
Thank you, the texture file looks OK, though I would consider using DDS. The file size would be way smaller.

Quote from: ARI on December 31, 2020, 08:55:32 PMhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/3sgr4uf2f103nae/2020-12-31_14-40-27.mp4/

I made the video anyway, its only 6 mins so can u pls watch it and tell me what im doing wrong. Thx btw for helping me for the past month lol, you've been really been helping me with 3ds.
You're welcome, ARI, and thanks for the video. However, I might be too drunk now to understand why you are using Box to create a grass surface. LauZzZn advised you exactly what to do:

Quote from: LauZzZn on December 28, 2020, 12:36:10 AMMake a line on the edge of your track, then outline it, connect it, create a surface and it is done

Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 11:44:49 PM
The grass shows up now and I'm able to spawn but there's no tarmac
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: ARI on December 31, 2020, 11:55:51 PM
The tarmac doesn't show up on tracked or in the game. I tried just exporting the tarmac and putting it into tracked and I doesn't show up. What should I do?
Title: Re: I need help with 3ds max
Post by: LXS77 on January 02, 2021, 12:47:46 AM
Try to flip the track surface (see the attached image).