Hello guys.I haven't been playing KRP for almost a month,and when I saw that the Beta8 came out,I smiled and downloaded it..Now I've been playing for 2 days and I have a problem with the FFB.My wheel is Thrustmaster Ferrari F430.The problem is that the FFB centers the wheel with INSANE speed.I mean,when Im not running a game,or Im in the settings,It centers it normally and slowly.But when I have to steer/use the wheel,the resistance is fckin' insane(sorry).It happened in TDU2 and Euro Truck Simulator 1 too..The wheel WORKS FINE.Im playing OMSI atm and I think there is a FFB too,but it is really low..
I didn't seem to have this problem in the Beta7 so I don't think the problem is in the wheel.Actually I think that it is in the WHEEL settings..The FFB I use in-game is 25%,and in the wheel menu,it is 100% (max is 250%).
I've asked about TDU2 ,but a player told me to remove the FFB,because it is bugged..I don't think the FFB in KRP is bugged,because the quality of this simulator is brilliant..
Will be happy to receive replies.
Regards,Flamber.
That's odd... I never had any FFB problem in any od the KRP betas....
What about the windows driver? Is it working ok? Are the settings correct?
I guess yes..When the wheel is working correctly,the driver should be OK too..
Hey,you know what?I think it will be a good idea to reinstall it..What do you think?
yeah, reinstall it and see if there's any change in it's behaviour
okay..By the way,it isn't possible that my wheel is fcked up,right?Cuz I have it for 3 months now..
I can't say that's a problem with the wheel, but if it is, then you have the warranty.
Do you still have beta7? If you do, then why don't you install it again and test it there? If you don't, I'm sure PiBoso wouln't mind to make some kind of link accessable to you.
Quote from: Flamber on April 06, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
The FFB I use in-game is 25%,and in the wheel menu,it is 100% (max is 250%).
for a G25 would be very weack, check if there is some settings as "centering spring" "dumping" if so put zero
Okay,I've downloaded the latest drivers,and the problem still stays..
No,I don't have Dumping,or Spring Centering in-game,only in the wheel,and it is 100% (max) and the centering is "By the wheel".Tried "By the game" though,but still the same..Im starting to think that the problem is in the game,because when I'm in the menu there is still fast centering(just checked it),and when I'm on the desktop,everything is okay..
I know 25% is low,but here the problem is the centering,I usually used to play with 35-40%..
And no,I dont have a beta7 installer..
EDIT: I've removed the auto-centering from the wheel setup,and in the game it still centers it,but really,really slowly...Like a snail xD :D
It is weird..Now Im almost 100% sure that it is because of the game..
Quote from: Flamber on April 08, 2013, 11:05:20 AM
Okay,I've downloaded the latest drivers,and the problem still stays..
No,I don't have Dumping,or Spring Centering in-game,only in the wheel,and it is 100% (max) and the centering is "By the wheel".Tried "By the game" though,but still the same..Im starting to think that the problem is in the game,because when I'm in the menu there is still fast centering(just checked it),and when I'm on the desktop,everything is okay..
I know 25% is low,but here the problem is the centering,I usually used to play with 35-40%..
And no,I dont have a beta7 installer..
EDIT: I've removed the auto-centering from the wheel setup,and in the game it still centers it,but really,really slowly...Like a snail xD :D
It is weird..Now Im almost 100% sure that it is because of the game..
If you have auto-centering in the menus, then please make sure to disable the spring and damping in the wheel software.
When I disable it,the auto-centering while playing the game almost gets removed..
And,excuse me,I made a mistake.The auto-centering in the menu and in the desktop is Normal,but while steering in the game,it is fast.
Please excuse me again for the mistake.
Quote from: Flamber on April 08, 2013, 11:41:18 AM
When I disable it,the auto-centering while playing the game almost gets removed..
then increase the FFB power in the profiler, important is you have disable autocentering and others things usefull for arcadish games
Okay.But the problem is not in my wheel,right?
Because as I said,in the Beta7 I had auto centering and 40% FFB working really well..
Quote from: Flamber on April 08, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
Okay.But the problem is not in my wheel,right?
Because as I said,in the Beta7 I had auto centering and 40% FFB working really well..
from beta7 to beta8 I have had to do some changes in the profiler and in the FFB game settings for to have a FFB similar to beta7
Quote from: Flamber on April 08, 2013, 12:06:10 PM
Okay.But the problem is not in my wheel,right?
Because as I said,in the Beta7 I had auto centering and 40% FFB working really well..
Please try disabling any auto-centering and damping in the wheel setup, and then increasing the force in Kart Racing Pro to 100%.
Okay.
Tried it,and the fast centering appeared again.
A friend of mine told me that I should try GTR(an awesome simulator),and if I have centering problems too,my wheel is for the trash :D Fortunately,the FFB there was awesome,and when I was on one place with my car,the centering was normal too..
I don't know,I will just wait till the next update and hope it will be fixed. :)
Thanks for the help anyway,guys :)
Good luck :)
Okay guys.I'm reviving an old thread.Played a bit yesterday,and the FFB wasn't working again..I've tried the wheel on the beta7 too - the same o.O
When I bought the wheel,the FFB worked on all the games that I played: F1 , KRP , Dirt3(officially supported) , Dirt 2 , TDU1/2.On Euro truck simulator its behaviour became strange - here I found that it is centering itself way too fast..Now it is the same for all games.At first it was okay in GTR Evo1,but then something happened and the same thing happened..I didnt have the luck to play GTR2 normally...
Maybe I fuc'ked up the FFB while attaching it to the desk too hard? Is it possible? But it has the special appliance for attaching,so it is not a problem..At the beginning,I've put the screw without the special appliance(it is written that this may bug the FFB),but I dont think this is the problem ,because it worked on Dirt3 perfectly..
A friend of mine told me that it is possible that just the FFB drivers suck,cuz I've already reinstalled them..
Or maybe the game is not compatible with the wheel?I have to calibrate it again? Please help..The centering is really fast,and the FFB really hard..Or I just have to setup the wheel in the control panel?Because everything there is 100/200..I mean,master FFB 100%(200 total),agressivity,etc...The auto centering is by the wheel,not the game.
Thanks in advance, Flamber.
Quote from: Flamber on June 03, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
The auto centering is by the wheel,not the game.
that's your problem
Okay,I'll check it and respond! :))
Well,the same.It was ticket "Center by Game(recommended)",and when I press (F) on the wheel,the button that centers it automatically,it starts centering fast.Same with Center by the Wheel..And when I enable the FFB in-game and disable the (F) button,it slowly centers itself =o ..maybe this is how it works?The FFB was on 52 or 54 ,not sure..
EDIT: I can't also control the kart smoothly..The wheel rotates itself probably because the FFB and cant keep a straight line when the FFB is on..Prostix' driving is really good( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=vHA3nOukHLY ) and as you can see he can control the kart really good.This is what I can't do..Maybe my FFB drivers suck..But I dont think it is because of them..The wheel is not the best,but still very good,awesome I can say..It is not like G27 or T500,but still perfect for using..Dont know why is it like that..At the first time I used it here,the Auto centering was BY THE WHEEL,and everything worked fine..Maybe I should use my guaranty and let the wheel to the service?
In a simulator centering wheel must be by game. Only in some cases a little bit of centering spring, 5 or 10%, gives a better feeling. have you tried reverse effects?
Don't remember about the reverse FFB.
Anyway,my centering is now "By the game"and on 100% power.Should I decrease it to 5-10% as you say?
I have G25 and centering spring is in the profiler setted at 20% for to remove a small dead zone in the center,
The power of FFB in profiler is 120 and the same in the game, but set as you feel better.
In my wheel force FFB is one thing, and centering spring in another.
Reverse effects is an option in the game, some wheels needs reverse effects in some games
Okay,done what you said.Decreased the auto center to 30%,and increased FFB(general) to 120%,also agression to 110%,and the static/dynamic FFB to 120%..The centering was by the wheel.And the wheel failed to work in-game..First the FFB was so fckin' strong(sorry),and then the pedals stopped working..Tried to calibrate them both,then the pedals started working,the wheel stopped(around 4 seconds I press the GAS pedal..)..I've just exited the game..Any ideas?
Im still thinking that I should go and let it in the service,maybe there is a problem..Also,the steering became Unassigned after a bit..Calibrated it 2 times,and the same thing happened..
if you have problems also with other games, yes, contact customer care, the usb port work well? have you tried another port?
The USB port works well..The wheel works too in other games,but the FFB isn't working properly..In Dirt3,this wheel is officially supported and its behaviour there is perfect.In GTR works too,but not in GTR2..Maybe this game is not supporting it?
that's strange, GTR and GTR2 have the same engine (GMOTOR), but in those games is very important how setting the FFB in the plr. I don't know what other to think
Oh,forgot to mention that I wasnt playing with FFB,sorry..And when I disable it,the wheel centers normally..When enabled,the same thing happens..As I said before,a guy that is a friend of mine told me that my FFB drivers suck..But I dont think so..On Dirt3 was working perfectly at the beginning..Same for KRP..I had Center by Wheel,100%, all other FFB options were on 100% too,and the wheel was working nice(was beta7)...Now it doesnt work even in Beta7(tried yesterday)..
Anyway,the wheel works perfectly..But when the FFB is disabled..
And,why can't I drive in a straight line?I have to enable deadzone at the center?
You know what?Actually,Im starting to think that this is the way FFB works..I will make a video later showing you my "problem",and if it really is the way it is working,Im gonna laught all day..I will post the different settings,and show how it works..
http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=1&fid=2&pid=282&cid=1
You mean that I should reinstall the drivers again?
Okay,reinstalled them.The same.I found out that if I decrease the in-game FFB,the centering becomes slower.And if I increase it- faster.
I have an idea.Isn't it good if I set the centering from the wheel's control panel to 0,and increase the FFB to 100 in-game,as Piboso said.And also disable the auto centering by the wheel(the F button I have on it).It will center itself slow,but like in the real life,right?
Quote from: Flamber on June 05, 2013, 08:57:29 PM
Okay,reinstalled them.The same.I found out that if I decrease the in-game FFB,the centering becomes slower.And if I increase it- faster.
I have an idea.Isn't it good if I set the centering from the wheel's control panel to 0,and increase the FFB to 100 in-game,as Piboso said.And also disable the auto centering by the wheel(the F button I have on it).It will center itself slow,but like in the real life,right?
you have to try different settings, I have never used your wheel so I don't know how the settings are, anyway now we are in loop
Quote from: oppolo on June 03, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: Flamber on June 03, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
The auto centering is by the wheel,not the game.
that's your problem
What wheel are you using?And have you enabled auto centering? Also,can you tell me the in-game FFB power and the one in the control panel?
it's useless because I have G25, anyway
profiler
overall effect strenght 120
springe effect strenght 0
damper effect strenght 0
centering spring strenght 20
degrees roration 900
in game
strenght 105
degrees 900
Okay,thanks.Anyway,I don't have Spring/damper..I have Static/Dynamic,right after the FFB power.Is it the same?
I've tried to set the Static and Dynamic FFB to 0,and the fast centering stopped,as long as the FFB.When I increased it and entered the game,it appeared again.Now I'm 100% sure that it is because the settings..Thanks for the help.Gonna do some tests and lets hope I will succeed.
Guys,just to ask you all. Do you use the auto centering option on the wheel?The F button for me.